More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and Iggy

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by rangerrick012

Iggy should NOT be a 88 3pt shooter. That was a huge problem in 2k12, inflated 3pt ratings making everyone drain 3s like Reggie. 80 max, and even that's stretching it IMO.

Sorry rick...but he shot the 3 like he was an 87-88 3pt shooter.

[iLLosophy]

Quote: Originally Posted by DukeC

Sorry rick...but he shot the 3 like he was an 87-88 3pt shooter.

This is one point where I don't agree with you on the Iggy argument. Guys who are 87-88 3pt shooters make a lot of contested threes. Don't get me wrong, he nailed open 3's, but 88 and above is for guys who can nail 3's with a hand in their face. Those weren't the type of shots Iggy was making his money off of.

[Thunder Storm]

Quote: Originally Posted by iLLosophy

This is one point where I don't agree with you on the Iggy argument. Guys who are 87-88 three 3pt shooters make a lot of contested threes. Don't get me wrong, he nailed them, but 88 and above is for guys who can nail 3's with a hand in their face. Those weren't the type of shots Iggy was making his money off of.

bingo.

This is where contested shot comes into play. 2K knows what they're doing, don't worry about the raw rating, other things will factor in and balance it out.

[thuglife74]

you all need to realize pipp played in a much tougher era. i'd bet he could contend with lebron's numbers if he were in today's game and probably even surpass him. i am not impressed with today's nba.

it's cool to discuss it and all, but don't complain because you CAN change the numbers.

[hoi514]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

I believe you & others are putting too much into the stats. I'm looking at the skill set. Pippen & LeBron have a very similar skill set. Many times the stats have as much to do with the team make up as a player's skill. Quite a few of Pippen's teammates were 6'10-7'0. Giving up rebounds to them doesn't take away from his rebounding skill. IMO, he could score in more ways than LeBron because he could play in the post. But he played along side MJ, the best scorer of his generation. Giving up points to him doesn't take away from his scoring ability. Playing along side Jordan probably took away from his assist numbers too since MJ handled the ball so much & created much of his own shots. And I don't care what the numbers say. Pippen was a much better defender than LeBron is. IMO, he's the best perimeter defender of all time. On ball, playing the lanes, defending the post, coming from the weakside, chase down blocks, full court pressure on PGs... he did it all, consistently. *Edit: What individual ratings would you give LeBron over Pippen, and by how much? They try to put together teams now instead of grabbing all the best players... rebounders, defenders, 6th men, shooters, etc. That was not the case in '92. Outside of Laettner, that team was made up of the best players in the league at the time. There were no Chandlers, Hardens or Iguodalas on the original Dream Team. Isaiah got snubbed. Stockton should not have been on that team ahead of him. But no one is complaining about Pippen taking a more deserving player's spot. And I'm not aware of anyone turning down a spot on the original Dream Team.

it was totally different era, at the time when NBA teams drew bad blood. Isiah Thomas could've made Dream Team based on talent alone BUT inclusion of him would hurt the chemistry when number of players refused to have him on the team included Jordan, K Malone, Magic Johnson, etc.

The best team assembled does not necessary putting 12 best players together. Skill set of these players need to be compatible and address teams needed. If not, Boozer would not been included in Redeem Team.

I have no problem with Chris Mullin on the Dream Team because that team needs an sharp shooter like him. In additional, he was a pretty good team defender and had almost 2 steal per game . The committee chose Christian Laettner instead of Shaq because of his ability to knock down perimeter shot and Laettner was NCAA champ. Dream Team did not need Shaq on the team to play against that level of competition. It might be different issue were 92 Dream Team is built to beat 2012 Team USA .

Anyways, Scottie Pippen is the best wing defender of all time. No questions about it. He may not be an elite offensive players but he is an ultimate team player who could make teammates involved in the game.

[hoi514]

get over it.... young fans think they are watching the best in NBA in this era... when the rules are favor to offensive players... it disrupt the flow of the game. Today's player is soft... just little contact... and that's called a FOUL..? David Stern deserved the blame ..... the rule encourage players to play on perimeter and discourage tough player work under baskets....

[thuglife74]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarvinOida

What's Brian Scalabrines rating? I'm expecting at least a 56 and as high as 99, and they have to correct his stroke to look similar to Ray Allen's.

ever beat a dead horse?

[J_Posse]

Quote: Originally Posted by thuglife74

you all need to realize pipp played in a much tougher era. i'd bet he could contend with lebron's numbers if he were in today's game and probably even surpass him. i am not impressed with today's nba. it's cool to discuss it and all, but don't complain because you CAN change the numbers.

No, Pippen wouldn't be able to exceed LeBron's current production. LeBron is bigger, faster, stronger and is a more natural scorer. Other than one-on-one perimeter defense, there isn't a thing on a basketball court that Scottie Pippen can do better than LeBron James.