Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by kelvinmak

Has anybody gotten a straight red yet? I made a few borderline red tackles and got yellows, which piqued my interest. So I tried some even more blatant ones (the tackling-a-player-on-a-breakaway-from-behind variety), and still only yellows. I'm wondering if this is happening to anybody else.

I got one last night with Badstuber trying to chase down Higuain. He was through on goal but his 1st touch was a lil heavy. I thought I had a shot at getting it slightly outside of the box which I did. Unfortuantely I got majority leg and I was down to 10.

It did allow me to see the CPU Signature CR7 free kick which he barely put over. I have it on video, just need to upload it.

[ezio]

Quote: Originally Posted by kelvinmak

Has anybody gotten a straight red yet? I made a few borderline red tackles and got yellows, which piqued my interest. So I tried some even more blatant ones (the tackling-a-player-on-a-breakaway-from-behind variety), and still only yellows. I'm wondering if this is happening to anybody else.

YES Last night playing as Barca getting torn apart by Bayren they played a ball in behind the defense and I slid with Puyol got all man and got a staright red. I think i was the last defender too.

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by MattyEdgeworth

The game is amazing, much more realistic than FIFA especially in midfield. I'm finding it difficult to break though the defence but that's because I'm so used to FIFA just allowing you to spam the one two pass and then get a lobbed ball over the top. Plus I can't pull off any skill moves and am just getting to grips with the controls. Despite that I'm still enjoying it a lot, it's a different feel to FIFA and while I'm not keen on the player models or faces you still get a much better feel of who you are playing with, they may look kind of strange and the animations feel a little stiff but the players feel unique, when you are Messi you feel like you are Messi, same for Ronaldo, Iniesta, Neymar etc. and that's something I like very much. A big difference I noticed from the first demo is the player touches, this is something FIFA is going for this year and it's done very well in PES as well. It's much harder to get a great first touch without knocking the ball forward a yard or two which is great because it takes away from the 'ball on a string' feeling in FIFA 12(I can't talk about FIFA 13 obviously). The A.I is very realistic, your teammates make intelligent runs and not just runs for the sake of it like FIFA 12. They'll make runs behind the defensive line to create space and other players will run into open spaces and good positions. Player the computer is also a lot of fun because the CPU doesn't make 'super dribbles' or just general unrealistic play like in FIFA. They attack realistically and there is no sense of helplessness at being unable to get the ball back while just watching them dribble side to side and back and forth like FIFA. Overall the gameplay is great, the only problems I have are in the graphics and player faces but I can look past that because the gameplay is so good.

I always preferred PES's player models over the other game as you can clearly see the difference between a slimmer and bulkier player. Also height and weight effect movement and you can clearly see the difference between taller and shorter balls all the way down to their foot size. Some faces are hit or miss but if you are a PC player this is almost a non issue, overall I really like the graphics of PES and the gameplay is just on a another level for me.

I just played a game Real Madird (me) bs. Juventus (cpu) and lost 1-2. Something PES always does well is the cpu changing tactics according to the situations during the game. Juventus changed from a 3-5-2 to a 5-3-2 after going 1 goal up in the 70th minute.

I didn't realize it until I noticed how packed the goal box was when I wanted to take a shot. And even late in the game Juventus actually played keep away, this is something that was has fluctuated in and out of the PES series over the past few years but I actually noticed the CPU blatantly doing it. I was only able to muster a goal late in the game by a back pass mistake that fell in right in front of Ronaldo.

[kelvinmak]

Quote: Originally Posted by KG

I got one last night with Badstuber trying to chase down Higuain. He was through on goal but his 1st touch was a lil heavy. I thought I had a shot at getting it slightly outside of the box which I did. Unfortuantely I got majority leg and I was down to 10.

Quote: Originally Posted by ezio

YES Last night playing as Barca getting torn apart by Bayren they played a ball in behind the defense and I slid with Puyol got all man and got a staright red. I think i was the last defender too.

Ah, cool. Just goes to show how bad I am at soccer games. Can't even get my guy sent off if I tried (and I really did). Thanks for the responses!

[lnin0]

The team AI and player ID really shines in this demo.

I love that every game has a different feel and flow to it. I love the stand out players are stand out whether they are on your squad or against. I love average players noticeably lack the arsenal of the better players - it really makes you pay attention to who has the ball and where the defense is. I love the fact that long passes just don't glide in and stick to your players foot. I love the back and forth midfield battle. I love seeing rallies up by the goal. I love the defensive moves and the risk of taking a lunge coupled with the individual player ID it really makes you pay attention to who you can try to trample over and who you need to give space. I love seeing an AI team work together and getting burned by a well setup shot from the opposing AI.

Also, I have had a straight red card and several yellows. The red was on a blatant tackle from behind that came a second after he released a pass. So far I am liking what I see with all the fouls and cards. I like that you can almost tell when you are getting a carded because you know what you did.


I really like the demo. I was thinking a lot about this game, Madden and FIFA as I am on still a little on the fence as to which one I get. One thing that I don't like about PES is how dated all the menus looks. Then I got to thinking of how many times I have cried in the Madden forums about wishing EA would just focus on the gameplay for once and not waste time with all the glitz and glamour. How I would take the same recycled Madden features and UI if they would just make the game play more realistic. Well, I think the PES team did this so I feel like I would be a hypocrite for not picking it up because the menu looks like something from the 90s.

My other concern is online. I am not sure what the PES 360 player pool for North America looks like. I know it is always easy to find a pick up game in Madden and FIFA...but then again, I cannot stand the way the average Madden and FIFA players play - abusing the broken game mechanics for all its are worth and playing nothing that resembles a real life game.

[steveeee]

Quote:

Goalies are back to being dumb as ****.

that's odd.. out of all the impressions I have read at evo web.. and there is a lot of criticism from some.. the one thing I haven't seen anyone say yet is the goalies are worst.. they all have said they are better. weird

any ways, can't wait to try the PS3 demo tonight when I get home from work.. I enjoyed demo1 a lot and like it better than my FIFA 12... I'm just expecting a slight improvement from demo 1 hopefully..

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by steveeee

that's odd.. out of all the impressions I have read at evo web.. and there is a lot of criticism from some.. the one thing I haven't seen anyone say yet is the goalies are worst.. they all have said they are better. weird any ways, can't wait to try the PS3 demo tonight when I get home from work.. I enjoyed demo1 a lot and like it better than my FIFA 12... I'm just expecting a slight improvement from demo 1 hopefully..

That's what a I noticed what a slight improvement especially in the movements. I noticed new first touch animations and the dribbling is slightly smoother. I noticed it immediately because I played the first demo ALOT someone who hasn't might not notice much of a difference.

Other than that I haven't noticed anything jarring from the Goalkeepers. although I do notice sometimes the goalkeeper will choose an out of place animation to stop a shot only to have the ball go past them but that was in demo 1 as well. They aren't perfect but I feel that they do what you expect besides a few blunders that some GK's make but overall I like the improvement over them and they don't spill many shots.

[ZoneBlitz]

Quote: Originally Posted by lnin0

The team AI and player ID really shines in this demo. I love that every game has a different feel and flow to it. I love the stand out players are stand out whether they are on your squad or against. I love average players noticeably lack the arsenal of the better players - it really makes you pay attention to who has the ball and where the defense is. I love the fact that long passes just don't glide in and stick to your players foot. I love the back and forth midfield battle. I love seeing rallies up by the goal. I love the defensive moves and the risk of taking a lunge coupled with the individual player ID it really makes you pay attention to who you can try to trample over and who you need to give space. I love seeing an AI team work together and getting burned by a well setup shot from the opposing AI. Also, I have had a straight red card and several yellows. The red was on a blatant tackle from behind that came a second after he released a pass. So far I am liking what I see with all the fouls and cards. I like that you can almost tell when you are getting a carded because you know what you did. I really like the demo. I was thinking a lot about this game, Madden and FIFA as I am on still a little on the fence as to which one I get. One thing that I don't like about PES is how dated all the menus looks. Then I got to thinking of how many times I have cried in the Madden forums about wishing EA would just focus on the gameplay for once and not waste time with all the glitz and glamour. How I would take the same recycled Madden features and UI if they would just make the game play more realistic. Well, I think the PES team did this so I feel like I would be a hypocrite for not picking it up because the menu looks like something from the 90s. My other concern is online. I am not sure what the PES 360 player pool for North America looks like. I know it is always easy to find a pick up game in Madden and FIFA...but then again, I cannot stand the way the average Madden and FIFA players play - abusing the broken game mechanics for all its are worth and playing nothing that resembles a real life game.

This.

I love how realistic the game feels. It's as if you are playing against humans - either as an opponent or as the actual team members. I bumped it up to "Professional" last night and I had the most thrilling experience. I was Real Madrid against our hated rival Barca; I had so much fun. The teams played like their real life counterparts. I was panicking the whole game as I tried to keep my composure. Barca almost scored during one visit into the box because we were in thorough confusion, and the ball was going everywhere but into the net during what seemed like 5 shots in a row. Thankfully we escaped that. Then I scored on a awesome set up. I drove the ball in deep and the defense started to collapse around me at the top of the box at one corner. Somehow they left open another player who was at the other side of the box coming down the line. I passed it to him and he kicked it in for a goal. Despite a furious surge at the end by Barca, I won the game.

I am loving it.

The only thing that I will say critical is that they desperately need better graphics, overlays, animations, menus, etc.... They need to make it look like a top notch TV presentation. Madden, this year thus far, takes the crown regarding presentation that simulates the best broadcast for a particular sport. FIFA's menus and graphical overlays are also stellar. It's as if the graphical packages are there to combat your love for the game.

The game that PES plays is beautiful, the graphics are not.

That being said, I can't wait until the full game comes out. Unless FIFA finds true soccer between now and the time this releases, I am getting this far and away over FIFA.

Next, I plan to try the skill challenges to see what their talking about.