NBA Live 13 Gameplay Video - Miami Heat vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by CMH

What would you want them to do to show they really will listen this time? Serious question. I don't know what would actually convince me, but I get the feeling it will take someone there opening up that line of communication (officially), receiving that input, and then showing us how they implemented that input. However, that requires people actually wanting to both receive and give input.

They can start by utilizing the feedback of the guys that were there for Elite.

I was one of them and I don't need to be involved. But the guys that were there had great ideas, none of which were implemented in Elite.

Another thing that caused me to go out for the Elite event were the individuals invited did not have:

-A YouTube following or some other video blog heavy agenda
-A website where they were looking for exclusives
-Any sort of "inside" elbow-rubbing deal with anyone from EA
-Some connection to the media

You care about the game? Bring people out that want to focus on the game.

Hell, we were shown NBA Jam before most knew about it and I loved it more than Elite. Trey spoke at length and wanted our feedback.

The saddest part? Guys started playing Live '10 instead of Elite when we were there. I'venever seen that ever in a community event; Where guys play the old game instead of the new one...

The sad part is most of their ideas could have worked if they followed the input they were given. I told them it was unnatural to keep the dribbling hand when going to the sidelines. They were going for one-to-one control, but no one runs to the left sideline hard with the ball in their right hand.

Why does it take this video for people from EA to discuss anything?

There is your damage control right there.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by CMH

The timing is obvious. Agreed. And I know it's beginning to feel like that person you know that burned you once, twice, however many times and is asking for another chance. I want to go tell EA to screw themselves. They had their chances and didn't listen. But, what we have been asking for is input and someone to listen. Maybe this is it? I don't know. What would you want them to do to show they really will listen this time? Serious question. I don't know what would actually convince me, but I get the feeling it will take someone there opening up that line of communication (officially), receiving that input, and then showing us how they implemented that input. However, that requires people actually wanting to both receive and give input.

For starters, it wouldn't hurt them to open up their communication lines with the community before the 5-6 week to release mark if they really care what everybody has to say and eliminating the whole cloak and dagger routine. Let's be real, we've been sitting around here for months questioning if this damn game is going to come out or not and if it's even going to be on a disc or not without anybody even at least giving us the LD2K gif treatment and then a video that they didn't release comes out and three days later after everybody saw through the 'pre-alpha' defense a community guy shows up? Step one towards building or in this case rebuilding trust with someone is to eliminate shady actions from your routine. At this point, this is basically a new director rebooting a movie we've already seen and basically not putting his own spin on it but remaking it scene for scene.

[JerzeyReign]

To be fair Emmdot was a GC, this move to Community Manager had to have happened in the last week or two.

[Subversion]

Quote: Originally Posted by EmmdotFrisk

Constructive feedback and video analysis is welcomed. You don't necessarily have to be here to get the ball rolling. All ideas, opinions, and feedback is welcomed. At the end of the day we want an NBA game that fans will enjoy and identify with.

It would be great if EA confirmed our feedback, and also pointed out what was implemented based on our feedback.

There are a lot of us who work in the industry and know, from a professional stand point, what it takes to make a great game. Some of us have played Live and 2K since their inception, and we happen to be active players in the sport, and we have developed lots of great ideas on how to make a truly great SIM Basketball game. So it would be in your best interest to take our feedback with utmost importance, because your brand is at stake. Your producers should have been collecting this feedback since 2010.

After seeing the private presentation at E3 of Live 13' I feel as though the wrong people were leading this project. No enthusiasm, flat ideas and no vision for SIM Basketball.

Thanks for coming out and asking for feedback, but understand why we feel it has gone through one ear and out the other.

[Nathan_OS]

I'm really surprised this thread got so much love lol

[youvalss]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheUndogmatic

All I can say is to bring people who have good knowledge of basketball in for feedback, and also listen to gamer feedback. And put that feedback in the game. Also add some in-depth modes, take notes from 2k. Not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just saying.

That's true. But even before that they need to hire some physicists and doctors, because they clearly don't understand, or can't create, human body movement on earth.

[fluent2332]

The more I watch this, the better it gets. Some of you guys should go back and watch the video a second and third time. You pick up little bits every time that you missed before. Like the entire crowd jumping up and cheering when Lebron stepped out of bounds. Or guys like Shane Battier going for a rebound but he can't jump high enough and it goes over his head while he's leaning backwards. Little things.

I am worried about the shot selection from the Thunder though. I know Durant likes to shoot, but man, he was chucking. I really liked that play where he didn't settle for the top of the key 3 and stepped in to take a 2. That was a nice sequence. There was also a really nice sequence where the Thunder passed it around the perimeter a bunch of times before Westbrook finally got the ball and drove to the hoop to finish. Sadly, the Heat didn't have many highlights because of the person playing, but I did see a great back door cut from Wade at one point, and he was wide open.

I also like the way the players move without the ball on offense. They don't overdo it, but they seem to move to the right spots. After setting a pick Ibaka ran to near the top of the key but still within jumpshot range. And it seemed like wherever the user moved, the AI teammates tried to adjust to the person with the ball's position. One time this kind of broke down into madness though ,where the Thunder players were passing each other the ball while standing 2 inches away from each other and all bunching up near the top of the court. But I'm sure stuff like that can be tweaked.

Overall though, I can't wait to see this game in the hands of a good player. I think some of you should watch this footage numerous times and see if you can't pick out positive aspects of it instead of bashing it.

[NoTiCe_O]

Sept must really be the month this team plans to release info because its all they've got.

For a pre-alpha build I don't think this gameplay is terrible, especially because I think its missing certain technology that the Live team has been tallking about. Its time that they show us how far along the game has come though.

I feel like the game has to better than this gameplay because the Scott O'Gallagher and the Ad council are just on twitter going about their everyday lives and tweeting as if everything is fine and according to schedule.