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Old 08-15-2012, 07:16 PM   #369
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Re: NBA 2K13 Features 92 Dream Team (With Barkley, No Pippen) & 2012 Olympic Team

Uhh , No Pippen means no classic Bulls?
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:30 PM   #370
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My brother has worked in the media licensing business for the last 11 years, and here's how he told me this stuff USUALLY goes down:

The Bulls and the Olympic team rights are separate since the Bulls are a part of the NBA and the Olympic team(s) are organized and ran by the United States Olympic committee. The players are from the NBA but outside of that it has nothing to do with the NBA and/or its player association rules and regulations therefore making it a separate entity and the deals for such a team would be a completely different negotiation since the team itself is not connected to the NBA.

Therefore Pippen could sign off on an agreement to be on the NBA related content such as the Bulls classic teams yet he also has the right to say no to any other uses of his likeness on any non NBA related content. It appears that it's possible all the other players signed off for a particular price which included both NBA and Olympic related content, while Scottie may have wanted a separate side deal for him to be included on the '92 Dream Team.

I don't know if this is exactly what happened, but I do know that my brother told me this is how this stuff works when trying to negotiate deals with clients for use of their work and likeness on the same project that includes more than one companies/organizations being represented on the same project. In the licensing world its called "double dipping".
Read this beast10 and you'll get your answer.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:31 PM   #371
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Re: NBA 2K13 Features 92 Dream Team (With Barkley, No Pippen) & 2012 Olympic Team

I'm happy with this and can't wait for whatever mode they are used for. Will be fun just running with this team from time to time. Wish Scotty was in it but oh well...maybe 2k should play hard ball with him

2k: Ok we're calling with our original offer to ask you again if you would like to be in our game on the Dream Team

Scotty: I said no

2k: Well you can take our offer and get paid for being in the game, or you can say no again
and some of the fans who use these programs will put you in the game. there's nothing we can do to stop it....and you don't get paid.

Scotty:........ fax over the papers

come on 2k take off the gloves!


but seriously i'm liking where this game is going so far
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:37 PM   #372
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Read this beast10 and you'll get your answer.
So in somewhat basic words this:

Pippen signed on for NBA classic teams, but not FIBA or the US Committee classic teams, therefore, Pippen is only signed for the Chicago Bulls, Portland Trail Blazers, whatever team he was on that would be a classic team, not the Dream Team because it is not a NBA-related team, but part of FIBA, which is different. In which 2 separate contracts (and/or bonuses to already existing legends on 2K) are needed to be used to get Team USA rights and the players in a Team USA team. So that means Pippen WILL be on the Bulls with Michael, but not on the Dream Team.
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I'm happy with this and can't wait for whatever mode they are used for. Will be fun just running with this team from time to time. Wish Scotty was in it but oh well...maybe 2k should play hard ball with him

2k: Ok we're calling with our original offer to ask you again if you would like to be in our game on the Dream Team

Scotty: I said no

2k: Well you can take our offer and get paid for being in the game, or you can say no again
and some of the fans who use these programs will put you in the game. there's nothing we can do to stop it....and you don't get paid.

Scotty:........ fax over the papers

come on 2k take off the gloves!


but seriously i'm liking where this game is going so far
I was going to give your post a like bc I found it humorous, but then changed my mind after I saw you spelled "Scottie" with a "Y".

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Old 08-15-2012, 07:52 PM   #374
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I was going to give your post a like bc I found it humorous, but then changed my mind after I saw you spelled "Scottie" with a "Y".


yeah I did that didn't I heh
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So in somewhat basic words this:

Pippen signed on for NBA classic teams, but not FIBA or the US Committee classic teams, therefore, Pippen is only signed for the Chicago Bulls, Portland Trail Blazers, whatever team he was on that would be a classic team, not the Dream Team because it is not a NBA-related team, but part of FIBA, which is different. In which 2 separate contracts (and/or bonuses to already existing legends on 2K) are needed to be used to get Team USA rights and the players in a Team USA team. So that means Pippen WILL be on the Bulls with Michael, but not on the Dream Team.
I wouldn't get my hopes up. They said they could not reach an agreement to have his likeness in NBA 2K13. That sounds like it encompasses the Dream Team, Bulls, whoever.

Honestly I don't see the point of getting Barkley if he can only be used on the Dream Team and if it was at the expense of Pippen, virtually nullifying all the Bulls classic teams except the 85' one. When people asked for Barkley they wanted the man in the classic team mode. Seems counterproductive to get him for an incomplete Dream Team with only the 2012 National Team to play against considering the costs.
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Re: NBA 2K13 Features 92 Dream Team (With Barkley, No Pippen) & 2012 Olympic Team

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Yeah makes a lot of sense. They couldn't reach a deal with the guy who filed for Chapter 11. The production budget of this game is essentially one of the biggest in the sports industry, pay the man what he wants and do it properly. Either get it 100% or don't do it at all!

Also, the fact that every one of these players was a shoe contracted player, and in the screenshot all except 3 are wearing those generic shoes is a joke!

Finally, if we can't use these teams online, this mode will be rendered useless for a lot of people, myself included.
So you found nothing good at all in today's announcement?

If the reason why Pippen's not in the game is as simple as you say it is then 2K would have found a way to make a deal. Not everything is as easy at it seems.

About the generic shoes; once again we don't know at all how the politics or reasoning works at 2K's office. Isn't the fact that the dream team is in the game more important than correct shoes in this one picture?
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