Madden NFL 13 Video: Playbooks 5 & 6: Connected Careers

[joloy29]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteboSSK

Its a pretty big deal to have control dude. Alot of people like to structure their own Franchise to their liking. Editing numbers, equipment, boosting or subtracting player ratings, adjusting contracts to real life, creating new players in the league. Dont marginalize the feature just because you dont find it useful. Its a very useful tool when you want to adjust things, and no most people that use it dont want to set their team up as all 99 OVR either. NBA2k does this balance very well. You can edit players IF you want but also use practice sessions to boost ratings. In the end its about user control sir.

Can see what you mean mate, and you're right, I don't use it as much as others so I probably don't see the big benefit from it. Although I do love adding visors to my linebackers just to make them look meaner! From a feature standpoint though, I think that if people aren't excited about what CC can potentially bring above and beyond Madden 13, then they could probably get away with just playing Madden 13. eg play your own franchise and edit everything the way you want it from that standpoint - you'll have the same control and be able to edit everyone. Because let's face it, the game play itself probably won't change a ton. I guess I just don't like seeing people dismiss what appear to be pretty massive and generally speaking great developments for something that is relatively small in the overall scheme of things.

[Brandwin]

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone complain about not being able to edit players.

[PGaither84]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Again, online franchise was BARREN of MOST offline franchise features for 3 years, yet I don't recall seeing as much wailing and gnashing of teeth about that even in year 3 as I have in a month and half over this.

Because a lot of us don't care about Madden online. We are crying that our OFFline features are gone. If I could keep the offline features and set my CCM to offline only, I would do it in a heart beat. I sympathize with online players, always have, and there WAS a lot of crying about online mode during Madden 10 and the first few months of Madden 11... but you might have forgotten about that.

[goravens2052]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

Because a lot of us don't care about Madden online. We are crying that our OFFline features are gone. If I could keep the offline features and set my CCM to offline only, I would do it in a heart beat. I sympathies with online players, always have, and there WAS a lot of crying about online mode during Madden 10 and the first few months of Madden 11... but you might have forgotten about that.

Exactly. Online people just don't get it, Josh Looman doesn't get it. Online gaming is nice and all but don't pretend that every person plays online. It seems that Josh is pretending that everyone plays Online, and just because they don't want to do more work, they just combine everything into one mode because it's easier. Yeah Offline and Online has different coding, so what big deal. Plus it's not our fault that EA released Online Franchise so bare in the beginning when they shouldn't have made it with it lacking so much.

Honestly, I think it has gotten to the point where offline doesn't even matter anymore and that Offline to them is a thing in the past and they have this odd theory that everyone is playing online when in reality not everyone plays online.

Everyone is gushing over CCM and we all know that you will all see the point us offline folks have been making about lack of user control. So don't bother flip flopping and asking for the ability to edit when you have said you don't need it or anything. Trust me, I expect a lot of flip floppers after everyone plays it.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by goravens2052

Exactly. Online people just don't get it, Josh Looman doesn't get it. Online gaming is nice and all but don't pretend that every person plays online. It seems that Josh is pretending that everyone plays Online, and just because they don't want to do more work, they just combine everything into one mode because it's easier. Yeah Offline and Online has different coding, so what big deal. Plus it's not our fault that EA released Online Franchise so bare in the beginning when they shouldn't have made it with it lacking so much. Honestly, I think it has gotten to the point where offline doesn't even matter anymore and that Offline to them is a thing in the past and they have this odd theory that everyone is playing online when in reality not everyone plays online. Everyone is gushing over CCM and we all know that you will all see the point us offline folks have been making about lack of user control. So don't bother flip flopping and asking for the ability to edit when you have said you don't need it or anything. Trust me, I expect a lot of flip floppers after everyone plays it.

I don't think many people will be flip flopping. You won't find many people that are absolutely against the missing the features being in the game.

I love editing players. Does it suck it's not in the game? Yeah. Will it detract from my CCM experience? Probably a little bit. Is it going to completely hinder my ability to enjoy playing multiple seasons? No way.

If NCAA imports were implemented better, I'd probably buy NCAA and have simultaneous season's going on. Come August and September I'll be enjoying several seasons of offline franchise.

[Skyboxer]

I've always been an offline gamer first and foremost and the missing features don't bother me much right now.
The biggest one for me is no co-op but I can live without the others.

Also look at it this way. "offline gamers" have had these features while "online gamers" online franchise has been crap since it's inception.
Now the online stuff is getting some love and for the first year offline has to suffer a bit.. Yet it's the offline group that is all up in arms with just 1 year without these things.
EA says they want to get these things back i. So if true both sides will be happy (to a point) eventually.
Just have to wait and see....

[joloy29]

Quote: Originally Posted by Skyboxer

I've always been an offline gamer first and foremost and the missing features don't bother me much right now. The biggest one for me is no co-op but I can live without the others. Also look at it this way. "offline gamers" have had these features while "online gamers" online franchise has been crap since it's inception. Now the online stuff is getting some love and for the first year offline has to suffer a bit.. Yet it's the offline group that is all up in arms with just 1 year without these things. EA says they want to get these things back i. So if true both sides will be happy (to a point) eventually. Just have to wait and see....

On top of this, the biggest point is that their is no 'on or offline' modes any more. You can play both modes and they will have the same features going forward, so developers won't rob the rich to feed the poor

[Aftershock9958]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

Because a lot of us don't care about Madden online. We are crying that our OFFline features are gone. If I could keep the offline features and set my CCM to offline only, I would do it in a heart beat. I sympathies with online players, always have, and there WAS a lot of crying about online mode during Madden 10 and the first few months of Madden 11... but you might have forgotten about that.

Which is a lot of the problem. I remember a lot of the postings prior to the CCM and physics announcements where online players were predicting that online has to finally get some love, and so many people who only play offline blew it off like it didn't matter whether or not online got any type of update.

For the most part, the online players here have sympathized with offline players taking some hits, meanwhile before this all came to light the offline guys were extremely apathetic about online. Your line about "a lot of us don't care about online" hits it exactly on the head - it's borderline greedy how some of the people here are ready to riot over the fact that they're not the ones getting the new toys for the first time in a while.

Quote: Originally Posted by goravens2052

Exactly. Online people just don't get it, Josh Looman doesn't get it. Online gaming is nice and all but don't pretend that every person plays online. It seems that Josh is pretending that everyone plays Online, and just because they don't want to do more work, they just combine everything into one mode because it's easier. Yeah Offline and Online has different coding, so what big deal. Plus it's not our fault that EA released Online Franchise so bare in the beginning when they shouldn't have made it with it lacking so much. Honestly, I think it has gotten to the point where offline doesn't even matter anymore and that Offline to them is a thing in the past and they have this odd theory that everyone is playing online when in reality not everyone plays online. Everyone is gushing over CCM and we all know that you will all see the point us offline folks have been making about lack of user control. So don't bother flip flopping and asking for the ability to edit when you have said you don't need it or anything. Trust me, I expect a lot of flip floppers after everyone plays it.

This post has me facepalming so hard. "Online people don't get it?" Really? We spent how many years with next to no features, and we don't get it? We're the first ones who get it.

What I don't get is why so many people have these conspiracy theories and pretend (as you say Looman is doing) that they know what's happening behind the scenes. You don't. No one does.

And I'm with you. I also expect a lot of flip floppers - the difference is that I know many people will see their poor expectations exceeded, and there will be the same amount of people who will see their high expectations end in disappointment. It's the same every year, and this year is no different.