Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by niggarachi

In all my years of playing madden I never adjust player ratings. But I do want this feature in. For example. Last year the bills (my fav team) ran a 3-4 defense. I hate the 3-4 defense. So I rearranged the depth chart to reflect the 4-3 defense I was running using my custom playbook (also taken out) and instead of just moving the players to the spot I wanted them to play I change their position to reflect at positions I needed them to play. Now I can't do any of that and it will be very frustrating. I hope they get this Ina patch or something ... Come on Ea

While I agree with this and did the same thing moving the Redskins back to a 4-3, I think a see the method to Looman's madness. In this thread http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ing-diary.html it seems to be indicating, implementing a new scheme is no longer instant but requires a far more realistic process. Now I agree with "it's your game you should be able to do whatever you want" but that should be secondary to making sure it's done right, ie realistic first.

I am really feeling Looman more and more on this stuff because too many times in the past User customization has been used as an excuse for things not being implemented to perform realistic. It seems he is taking the stance, at least with CC, that before worrying about everyone "doing it their way" he wants to make sure whatever is added operates "the right way", meaning reasonably NFL realistic and I agree.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by SA1NT401

If you were to poll EVERY single person who played madden ( impossible I know but play along) 95% would take editing just to have the option. My .02

Not many people are going to say no to more options. Out of that 95% that would take it as an option I'm willing to bet a good chunk of them would say it being in or not isn't that huge of a deal to them.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by moneal2001

@SA1NT yes everyone wants options. poll those same people and ask if they would want editing in exchange for rtp or many other improvements that would take similar resources to editing to implement, i would bet you would see similar results for editing being left out

Comparing editing to RTP is ridiculous. 2 different teams work on those so its not like if they left in editing.....we wouldnt get RTP. A better comparison is twitter feeds vs. editing. The CCM team thought that adding twitter feeds was more important than implementing editing. They thought that twitter feeds were a more valuable addition.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

Not many people are going to say no to more options. Out of that 95% that would take it as an option I'm willing to bet a good chunk of them would say it being in or not isn't that huge of a deal to them.

Lets say you're "good chunk" is 65% of that 95%. That still leaves 30% of people who are furious they left out editing. Is it really smart for EA to leave anger 30% of its potential buyers?

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Lets say you're "good chunk" is 65% of that 95%. That still leaves 30% of people who are furious they left out editing. Is it really smart for EA to leave anger 30% of its potential buyers?

If I was to take a guess, I'd put it at maybe 10-15% of that 95% that would be furious that they left out editing and even that number feels a bit high. And even if it is closer to the 30%, you'd have to figure that some of that number will still be buying the game regardless of whether or not they're furious.

[87Birdman]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

If I was to take a guess, I'd put it at maybe 10-15% of that 95% that would be furious that they left out editing and even that number feels a bit high. And even if it is closer to the 30%, you'd have to figure that some of that number will still be buying the game regardless of whether or not they're furious.

And then you have to figure in new customers or old ones that are returning due to the new physic engine.

[DNMHIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

If I was to take a guess, I'd put it at maybe 10-15% of that 95% that would be furious that they left out editing and even that number feels a bit high. And even if it is closer to the 30%, you'd have to figure that some of that number will still be buying the game regardless of whether or not they're furious.

I actually think that it's probably real close to 30% being really upset and with the features they took out like offline multi player, editing, and custom Playbooks, those are the people that would have the most incentive to just stick with 12 and completly ignore 13. I've got no problem skipping 13 because it just doesn't support my overall expectations without the features they removed.

If the game doesn't support your needs just don't buy it.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

If I was to take a guess, I'd put it at maybe 10-15% of that 95% that would be furious that they left out editing and even that number feels a bit high. And even if it is closer to the 30%, you'd have to figure that some of that number will still be buying the game regardless of whether or not they're furious.

My issue with EA is priorities. I think .01% percent of people would be furious if Madden 13 didnt have twitter feeds or Skip Bayless/Trey Wingo or even Legends implemented in CCM. So even if only 10%-15% (I think thats low but I'll move on) of people are furious about editing being removed....why would you take the risk and alienate a large number of potential buyers?

Lets say only 5% of that 15% thats furious wont buy the game this year. Based on last years sales that 100-150k sales lost. Thats a loss of 6 million in potential profit. All for a mode that couldve been implemented.