Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[roadman]

Change usually comes with new leadership, good or bad.

[treq21]

Quote: Originally Posted by cuttingteeth

No, you guys miss the main point being who started that whole thread - The lead Madden Developer - Ian Cummings. The big guy knew it was important enough to get done. As soon as he's gone, the new guy doesn't care to focus on it so much.

yes, he started it on Operation Sports...where people care about such things. The masses do not. And EASports knows that...which is why they really dont care, and why they are doing this in the first place.

[Purple28Pedestrian]

gentlemen, slightly off topic but how does regression work?

I dont quite understand progression, you earn XP and build your players....so what about all the other players' progression? Do you only progress everyone if you are the coach or can you allocate to anybody [not just your selected player]?

In addition how does your player regress if you are in control of XP and allocation of said points.

My biggest gripe was that so many players took 7 point jumps from rookie to sophomore season and hardly any players regressed until they reached 33 yrs old or so. This is part of the reason I can't handle the no edit issue in franchise mode. I like to re-edit everyone so that the top guys are 92/93 overall ala fifa, and have everyone follow suit.

Having the old progressions system there would be several players over 96, several meaning almost 30 by the second and third years of my franchise [not acceptable to me]

[DNMHIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by treq21

yes, he started it on Operation Sports...where people care about such things. The masses do not. And EASports knows that...which is why they really dont care, and why they are doing this in the first place.

I disagree and you're just making an assumption. Roster editing is such a standard feature that I feel most people expect it in a sports title especially when you can create a player and all those options are available.

I think the masses do care about editing, they probably just don't take issue with it on message boards though.

[cuttingteeth]

I need to quit assuming everyone sees what I see, so for that I apologize. I will fill in the blanks.

Ian doesn't come on this forum or any other forum giving us full disclosure and then also asking our specific desires unless he knows it will matter to a great degree. If such a small percentage of people care about editing, then in no way does Ian (the lead developer of Madden) hit up forums as such.

That right there is some mad respect and knowing that your audience determines your project's worth. It also proves how much editing matters because they knew to address it massively per such forums and then addressed it in the game.

[ABR173rd]

Quote: Originally Posted by treq21

Its a huge issue on this website. because we are hardcore Madden players. But most people are not. Dont get blinded to the fact that this website has a few thousand fans...but millions of people buy this game. And to most of them, it is a game...not a way of life.

I wanted to touch on this statement which is completely untrue. I have a couple buddy's I work with whom I have never played Madden against. All of them play online as well as offline franchise just as much as I do. None of them go onto any forums or websites regarding Madden. Yet all of them can and have pointed out all of the same flaws that you would see on a board like this.

As a matter of fact, one of the guys will not be purchasing M13 due to the last three series and Madden in his eyes basically becoming stale. I spent over an hour after the CCM and E3 presentation all of which he was unaware of, trying to convince him that M13 was a must buy this year explaining all the new features. Long story short he wasn't convinced and all of his reasons for bypassing M13 are all similar to what you've read on any internet forum.

I would even go as far as to say some of the top online player's (cheeser or not) do not all belong to any forum's or follow Madden as closely as some of us. That doesn't mean they don't have the same gripes/compliments that we do regarding the game.

Difference between us and them is going to be release day when they figure out after their purchase some of their favorite features are missing.

[TreFacTor]

Quote: Originally Posted by ABR173rd

I wanted to touch on this statement which is completely untrue. I have a couple buddy's I work with whom I have never played Madden against. All of them play online as well as offline franchise just as much as I do. None of them go onto any forums or websites regarding Madden. Yet all of them can and have pointed out all of the same flaws that you would see on a board like this. As a matter of fact, one of the guys will not be purchasing M13 due to the last three series and Madden in his eyes basically becoming stale. I spent over an hour after the CCM and E3 presentation all of which he was unaware of, trying to convince him that M13 was a must buy this year explaining all the new features. Long story short he wasn't convinced and all of his reasons for bypassing M13 are all similar to what you've read on any internet forum. I would even go as far as to say some of the top online player's (cheeser or not) do not all belong to any forum's or follow Madden as closely as some of us. That doesn't mean they don't have the same gripes/compliments that we do regarding the game. Difference between us and them is going to be release day when they figure out after their purchase some of their favorite features are missing.

I agree, no one I know who plays madden comes to the internet for information regarding the game. Most of them get info word of mouth, and it's usually the wrong information. My nephew is a perfect example of this. He doesn't do his homework on any purchase that is less that $100....NOTHING. He was excited about Madden after only hearing about the infinity engine. After I gave him the down low, he was almost in tears. But he is also the type that will go out and buy the game day one, and then permanently give it to me the next day (it's been this way since madden 10) good for me, bad for him. I would go so far as to say that he epitomizes the average Madden purchaser. Could we see record numbers of returns in Madden 13's first week of release? Possibly, or those same people that don't know about the missing features will simply not care or are so accustomed to things being removed that they deal with it and vow not to purchase next year. Yeah, my nephew always says he's gonna wait till the first patch, but he never does.

[malky]

Wow! A hundred pages on such a "little thing" imagine that? Lol