EA Sports Sim Community Demand Quick Fix - Madden NFL 13 DE Pass Rush

[ghettogeeksta]

Quote: Originally Posted by LBzrule

I know you guys are not going to want to suffer through a lot of this video. Luckily you'll only need to skip to the 00:42 mark. What do you guys think of that? My only problem with it on the right side is the initial bounce animation. Left side looks pretty good. I don't like the slow set up though. But the pocket looks ok on this one. This is really what I was after here. If EA can get this pass rush script to play out more often I think it will do good for Madden 13.

The reason their is a bounce animation is because in Madden the computer can't calculate a defender on their side or at approximately a 45 degree angle. So they have to engage the offensive tackles head on first, then bounce into a animation.
This is why open field and perimeter blocking is so bad, and this is why nano blitzing is still in the game. Hopefully they add their run-time physics to the offensive and defensive line next year to eliminate this.

[reginald_rush]

I have been saying this for years. EA is working on the WR/CB one on one match up, and that's cool, but the real match up that needs attention is the DE/OT one on one battle. That, in my opinion will make the game more realistic. Not only will it help in passing plays, but it will open up draw plays and bootleg plays. What is the point of having a good pass rusher if they are not affective in the game at all. Also, if you have a one dimensional pass rusher, you should be able to take advantage of him by running at him. I'm sure that EA has heard this before and (hopefully) is working on this. I enjoy playing the game, just want it to evolve more.

[BezO]

LBz, I remember them changing something similar. Maybe you remember the specifics.

I don't remember if it was your idea or mine, just that we were both talking to Ian about it and the change was made, I think. You know how d-linemen have play art, slanting towards certain gaps, crashing DEs & such? I could swear we got them to code d-linemen, or at least DEs to abandon that on pass plays & try to rush up field.

If that's the case, I don't see how they can't make this same change.

The LSU/Alabama vid didn't look bad. The Madden vid was a bit better. Definitley needs to happen quicker, but I'm not sure if that wouldn't require new animation.

Good post as usual

[dolfanfrank]

Is it a known fact that the new physics engine "does not" apply to the OL/DL?

I am a big fan of using dline and OLB to rush the passer and would very much enjoy improvement in this aspect of the game.

[ghettogeeksta]

Quote: Originally Posted by dolfanfrank

Is it a known fact that the new physics engine "does not" apply to the OL/DL? I am a big fan of using dline and OLB to rush the passer and would very much enjoy improvement in this aspect of the game.

If you have looked at the videos of Madden 13 it's obvious it does not apply of the O and D line. In fact, they only used it with tacking this year. Hopefully they will incorporate physics in other parts of the game-play next year.

[RandyBass]

Quote: Originally Posted by Senator Palmer

This is just me thinking out loud here, but I remember last year some of the slider guys -- Playmakers, I believe it was -- said that if you changed certain sliders (can't remember which ones) that all of a sudden, these pass rush animations would trigger that for some reason never did on the default settings. Now to the point that LBz is making: apparently, this stuff if already in the game running under the hood. So the fix could be as simple as adjusting slider values before the game ships so that the engaged movement and pass rush animations the slider guys saw will trigger on the factory settings...

If a quick fix is possible, why hasn't it been done already? I'm just not so sure it's as easy as a tweak here or a tweak there.

And if they are going to investigate potential quick fixes, I'd much rather see them try to get CPU controlled ball carriers to not run into so many tackles, because I'm still seeing that in some of the videos and it looks pretty bad when it happens.

[johnnyg713]

Don't they have an offensive lineman on the dev team this year? I think if stuff like this could be easily tweaked then it would have been because I would imagine he knows his stuff and how everything plays out and should look. I imagine next years overhaul will be very impressive, but this year i think what we see is the vids is what we will get unfortunately.

[PantherBeast_OS]

@LB I agree with you 100% bro. They need to fix the pass rush in Madden13. I look at some of these current videos. I don't really see no pass rush from the front 4 on the human team. That is why I wish they would fix it before Madden13 goes gold or been put on discs before it ships out. The lack of pass rush on the AI this year will be a killer.