Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

[MattyEdgeworth]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan

you think it's pathetic that a family who's used to playing the game together won't buy it because now they can't?

Woah what? Sounds like I'm not understanding this fixture thing, I haven't played a Madden in a long time.

What I think is pathetic is that people complain about the gameplay for Madden for such a long time, then this year they finally make some huge strides with the gameplay including real physics, which if done right has the potenial to be a game changer. Then because of a lack of some failry minor things decide they won't buy the game at all.

[wheelman990]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

No wheel you are misconstruing my points. I have stated and defended people such as SteelerSpartan and Aholbert for being pissed about the stuff being removed. I agree it is not a good move.(I have stated plenty of times in several threads now, I support those guys on that stance) What I don't understand is the people complaining about the game "changing". There have been a number of people upset that things are different. This makes no sense to me when many of us around here have complained it is "ALWAYS THE SAME GAME WITH 1 NEW FEATURE AND A ROSTER UPDATE" Then we get a year where they dropped a bunch of new stuff, really seem to try and turn the game around but that gets completely over shadowed. I think it is the case of "I want my cake and eat it too". We can't have everything granted, I agree the removal of features is horrible and should not happen. But to complain the game remains the same and then when it changes to complain about that............come on!!

I do like the idea of something fresh and new, and ccm might be awesome. The only thing I wish EA would have done is keep the old franchise mode, or even just a season mode with all old options(editing) as a option too. Then once they get those features back in ccm, get rid of season unless people are still asking for it(at that point, they prob wouldn't care cause all their features are present).

I was excited about Madden 13. This editing thing really bumped me back to a used or thanksgiving sale ($29.99) type buy.

[moneal2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by StrawHat Patriot

No, you tell me. RTP is tackling based for the most part. So that won't affect O-line/D-line, WR/DB, AI, Player Models. The Pass Trajectories are good, but they won't make up for the Passive Receivers, and the sliding/flying Safeties/Corners/LB's who can make more unrealistic plays pending on the defense.

have you played the ncaa demo? wrs and dbs are not passive in that and that is because of the 400+ new catch animations. and the read and react defense ai has decreased the unrealistic plays by the defenders as has the new catch animations since they work both ways.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by gjneff

The problem isn't that the game isn't the same, it's that they haven't added some of the most basic parts of an NFL team before doing so. I was extremely excited until the list of can'ts started coming out. Position changes, number changes, accessory changes. None of these things should break the game yet are very basic parts of the NFL. Every team has to change player positions. And go in a locker room and ask about numbers and accessories, real players care about these things for themselves so why shouldn't I. That is how I enjoy the game. It's fine that you don't need to have options, but I do. Madden is really the only thing I do in my free time year round. Now I'm without that enjoyment for at least a year, so it matters to me.

See I just can't wrap my head around this. You are welcome to feel the way you do. Trust me I sincerely feel that way, but to me this is just minor.

The MAJOR part of the game for me is the PLAYING part. Calling plays, moving my players around, making tackles, scoring TDs, sacks, etc. If that is improved I can live without the editing for a year or so

[gjneff]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

It goes both ways, you can't appeal to everyone on everything. I have purchased 3 Maddens in my life. This is a year I feel like they listened for people like myself, the gameplay being addressed. I also understand some of you don't believe its been changed for the better. But you are also the same people that have not played it yet, just like I haven't. Basically my point is when you liked what you had and I was complaining the on field sucked.....people would say "its just a game enjoy it". Then they fix on field stuff (it appears) and I like what i see but features have been removed so those people who liked it before are now the ones complaining.

CC has nothing to do with game play improvements. I'm happy to see those. They didn't need to leave out basic functions to give better game play.

[speedy9386]

Quote: Originally Posted by MattyEdgeworth

Woah what? Sounds like I'm not understanding this fixture thing, I haven't played a Madden in a long time. What I think is pathetic is that people complain about the gameplay for Madden for such a long time, then this year they finally make some huge strides with the gameplay including real physics, which if done right has the potenial to be a game changer. Then because of a lack of some failry minor things decide they won't buy the game at all.

What may be fairly minor to you may not be to someone else. Despite the fact that I can't play offline franchise with my friends I am VERY excited for this game.

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by MattyEdgeworth

Woah what? Sounds like I'm not understanding this fixture thing, I haven't played a Madden in a long time. What I think is pathetic is that people complain about the gameplay for Madden for such a long time, then this year they finally make some huge strides with the gameplay including real physics, which if done right has the potenial to be a game changer. Then because of a lack of some failry minor things decide they won't buy the game at all.

I'm not sure what you mean by fixture. But I don't think many people are really complaining about the gameplay stuff is more the off field control aspects over your roster and how you play franchise or CC. They've removed a lot of basic stuff that isn't minor at all to some people like said family that won't be able to play a career with each other on one console anymore

[moneal2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by wheelman990

I do like the idea of something fresh and new, and ccm might be awesome. The only thing I wish EA would have done is keep the old franchise mode, or even just a season mode with all old options(editing) as a option too. Then once they get those features back in ccm, get rid of season unless people are still asking for it(at that point, they prob wouldn't care cause all their features are present). I was excited about Madden 13. This editing thing really bumped me back to a used or thanksgiving sale ($29.99) type buy.

if the game was made for the ps3 only that might have been an option. but not being able to use blu-ray for xbox makes that pretty much impossible. the disc space just isnt there.