Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[mestevo]

More people would be upset if all we got was 12 with the Infinity Engine and a promise for more next year, while this cycle's resources went into something that wasn't even released.

Pushing CCM to 14 because of an incompatibility with a few features resulting in them being removed is a pretty easy decision to not make IMO.

I think a lot of people are underestimating or don't really appreciate the direction, in the name of wallowing in the outrage.

It's not perfect, and that sucks however much it may affect you. Make the best of the situation and look to next year. If that means not buying it them so be it, speak with your wallet. Completely understandable.

[msdm27]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

So you are pretty much saying, don't add CCM this year which greatly improves the feature set of bare bones online Franchise, just so offline can continue have things like player editing, import rosters, etc? Or don't add CCM this year, instead update online franchise mode to include M12's features, leaving out the storylines, XP system and all the general new features in CCM, just so offline can continue to have the options they are accustomed to? If those are the only other options, I prefer the way EA/Tiburon decided to do it this year. I see it as they took ONE YEAR of release to combine these modes with some limited options, so going forward a raising tide will raise all boats, after YEARS of inequality in the Superstar, online and offline Franchise modes.

You're assuming all those things they added will work... I know those things they took out helped us fix all the things they added in the past that didn't work. But as I clearly said in my first post, I believe this was a step in the right direction.

Also if you look at your original post, you referred to the strides made by M12 as a reason for hope, my reply was those strides were mostly full player editing (and now they took it out) so that reason for hope should be dimmed a little, just sayin'

[TreFacTor]

Quote: Originally Posted by briz1744

And seriously people 54 pages of people complaining and only 7 votes on the gamechangers site to have it returned?

Do many people know about this? link?

[GiantBlue76]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

Lol... There were work arounds for Online Franchises. They functioned just fine, just incomplete. There are plenty ways out there. There were work arounds for Gameplay. Sliders sets all around. There are no work arounds for Offline franchises they want to edit, import, control +1 team, or even watch another game. None. You guys can be happy you got your online ish in the game. But this perspective of "now you know how we feel"/"told you so" isn't as uniting as you'd think. I personally don't care about online, so I prolly didn't/wouldn't even comment. Please do the same, as I don't see the purpose otherwise.

Give me a break here man. No one is saying that at all. You are assuming there are workarounds because you don't care about that mode. Not to mention there were no sliders in online franchise. That's beside the point. You are upset now because YOUR favorite thing is finally being taken out. It sucks and in no way is it acceptable. It's not acceptable to anyone, including those of us who are not affected. No one is saying, "I told you so". It's just interesting to see the reactions, because I think it has enabled a lot of football fans to really understand what is so frustrating about EA football. This IS a uniting element. No one wants to see features eliminated no matter what.

[DMorganU44]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I honestly don't blame Josh Looman for blocking his tweety bird or whatever because I don't see what else he can say. He already told us that they combined the three modes so that going forward all applicable resources can be centered on improving that one mode instead of three separate. He also said that he was adamant that if something couldn't be put in CCM right, it wouldn't be added at all. I wouldn't keep repeating myself if I were him either, you either believe him or you don't and him saying the same thing different ways won't change that, imo. If he doesn't have anything good to tweet back to you guys, it's probably best not to tweet to you at all and vice versa, imo. lol Considering the strides offline Franchise made in M12 and the features touted in the first year of CCM for M13, that trend bodes well for just how improved CCM for Madden 14 could potentially be, imo.

Big,

I don´t have a twitter account, but from the times I visited Loomas twitter, the vastly majority were not rude. He blocked a few guys that post here just because they did not throw him a softball... You can dig around youtube, podcast´s and all you see is a love fest.

Plus, he said people will always complain about "little thing" when asked about an important aspect of the game for big part of the consumers. It´s better be clear I´m not defending people being rude, because they deserve a block. But a lot of the msgs I saw on his twitter were just tough questions of people that do not agree with his "little thing" remarks... and they were blocked.

Looman just need to look how M. Young is dealing with twitter...

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by themassacre771.1

More than 30, and what's your point anyway?

182 actually, but the top 30 make up 58% of the thread

[DNMHIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

I've never played online and never want to, but I've always supported the online community in getting the love they've deserved and have been waiting a long time for. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the features that offline franchise has lost. People have a right to be upset about it and we as a forum should be supporting those that are upset at losing features that existed in Madden and exist in almost all Sports Video Games. Anytime someone has a legitimate complaint, we should ALL be standing behind them whether we personally use that feature or not. I just don't understand those trying to silence anyone with a legitimate complaint. Significant features are missing, we should all be upset about that. EA/Tib have a history or putting a feature in, taking it back out, replacing it and marketing it as a brand new feature, taking it back out, and returning it years later. We should ALL be upset about it. I, as a Software Designer, understand why they would want to combine modes into one. Saves them resources/dollars. I understand it, but because of it, significant features are still missing. We should ALL be upset about those significant missing features. I have never discouraged any online person from voicing their frustration. In fact, I encouraged it. Even though I could give a rats behind about online franchise. I'm smart enough to know they deserved much better than what they had been getting. Offline franchiser's deserve that same kind of support.

This is a great post IMO and its exactly how I feel. I think the game should be designed around the customer and last I checked that meant online and offline players alike. I've always been bummed about online just being a nightmare culture do to some players glitching the hell out of each other, but I always wanted it to be better just because I would like to participate somehow and I know a lot of people enjoy it and would like it to get better also.

No problem with CCM if designed properly and from here on out I'd really like to see both online and offline be developed side by side with the same great features for both. Whats really pissed a lot of people off is that by moving to this CCM effort it practically gutted the old franchise mode and left the offline player with a shell of what the game had been for them for so long.

[briz1744]

Quote: Originally Posted by TreFacTor

Do many people know about this? link?

sorry new phone and haven't worked out how to do that yet , ther is a link posted on page 25ish of this thread tho