Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[GiantBlue76]

Quote: Originally Posted by wheelman990

Didn't online franchise start with Madden 10? So, you been playing nfl football games for 2 years or just play with play it now games? Just curious. Thx

Hey Wheel,

I had every madden from 1988 (apple 2e) until 2000. Then I bought 2k. I played online head to head against friends during that time. Before that I played Madden on the genesis against friends and then I entered the online league realm on the PC. The PC had a fully functional online franchise back then, it was amazing. Then of course, they removed it, so I know exactly how you feel. 2k came out and I played the hell out of it online head to head against friends until 2k5 had full support for online leagues, then i played that. Then I lost my favorite brand of football to play all together. Trust me, I know exactly how it feels to have what you enjoy taken away. At least you can get yours back...

There are few people who are frustrated with Madden as much as I am, but connected careers is an awesome addition to this game. That much I am willing to say for sure.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by PPerfect_CJ

After some discussion, we agreed that Franchise mode is yours to control and that we needed to give you the ability to edit the ratings of any player in Franchise mode, whether they are veterans or the rookies you just imported from NCAA Football. If you want some QB you imported to be an 85 overall because you won the Heisman with him, you’re welcome to edit him to be that high. It’s all up to you" - Josh Looman EA Blog Madden 12 And I doubt that Looman would have said THIS if it were just 1%. Question is, why take it away from us?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but EA (specifically the Madden series) is notorious for the old "take away and give back" game. They take a feature like editing away and then promote it as a new feature the following years.

They did it when Madden went to next gen consoles under the guise of "we are building from the ground up" and they did it again this year with CCM. EA has also done it in the past with Fifa, Live and NHL.

With the exception of Crew mode, I've never seen NBA 2k do this. Never seen Sony do that with the show. Never seen THQ do it with their sports fighting games. It appears to be a EA only move with sports games.

[Danimal]

This doesn't effect me but I see how it does others. I'm not going to sit here and say it's important or not important because I believe we all make our own determination in "what we can deal with" when it comes to sports games.

Having said that what I find a bit disturbing is for years people have screamed for EA to innovate. Stop doing "roster updates" give us something new.

CCM is something new and almost no one has played it yet but some people have already deemed it a failure. That's just absurd logic IMO.

I want to try it see what is good and what is missing. Figure out what "I can deal with" and if I can play it going forward. No one is going to know how it tastes and what it delivers until we dig into it and I for one, well I'm ready to eat.

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan

exactly that's what I've been saying all along. they knew they wouldn't have time to flush it out completely so they went ahead without it. and for the record i've stated on the NCAA boards that I totally understand and respect their decision and I wish Madden would've taken that same approach to CC I love fluff especially with peanut butter, but I don't get what I ever said that was inaccurate

I think I may have meant to quote the post you quoted... I don't have a full pot of coffee yet so therefore my thought process is still suspect

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[wheelman990]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan

but my opinion is backed up with actual facts that's the difference

Where were the facts posted at?

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by Danimal

This doesn't effect me but I see how it does others. I'm not going to sit here and say it's important or not important because I believe we all make our own determination in "what we can deal with" when it comes to sports games. Having said that what I find a bit disturbing is for years people have screamed for EA to innovate. Stop doing "roster updates" give us something new. CCM is something new and almost no one has played it yet but some people have already deemed it a failure. That's just absurd logic IMO. I want to try it see what is good and what is missing. Figure out what "I can deal with" and if I can play it going forward. No one is going to know how it tastes and what it delivers until we dig into it and I for one, well I'm ready to eat.

If you invent a time machine so we can both skip to the release I will help fund it. Rynoaid might throw in as well.

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[poster]

Casey, Ryno, have they said whether some of the generated features (assigned numbers & equipment for new players) will work better this year? Have they said they have dedicated more resources to make this area work better this year since there is no editing?

Since there is no editing, I would have thought they would at least discuss those aspects being improved and worked on in the new CCM. By not saying anything, all we have to go by is their track record of it not working well in the past. I get that it is a new mode, but I would have expected a mention of it being tweaked in the new mode somewhere along the line (blogs or E3 videos). Did they work on improving this area at all?

[bichettehappens]

Quote: Originally Posted by wheelman990

I completely disagree. Even arcade players love editing players up. Specially stat editing. I think the minority are the people who wouldn't want that option. The only people Im seeing stand up for the decision are the ones who I have come to expect to and the poll you mentioned was based on when people thought we could edit pre ccm nd use the file. We just learned yesterday via Steve that there is zero editing on anything besides play it now games.

You may have misinterpreted what I'm saying. I'm not saying a majority don't care, I'm saying a majority would not be up in arms screaming "game breaker!" about it.

And ok, let's double the results of that poll, 0.06% is not going to hurt their wallets. The fact remains that unless a much larger portion of the community voices their frustration, they won't be forced into doing anything about it immediately.