Where did I say "USE" the M12 progression system as is. Did you miss where I said "enhance it"? Did you miss some of the things I mentioned as variables to use in the progression calculation?
Really? You pick which players you want to go through which drills and earn XP points and then spend those XP points on whatever attribute you want that player to progress in? Or even if the XP points gained can only be used in attributes effected by the drill you select, that's still not like real life. People have limitations on what they can do. No one is limitless. Speed doesn't increase to a 4.1 40 just because players run drills. If that were the case, we would see world sprint offensive lineman.
Yes, players do it ALL THE TIME, during the off-season, and during the season. Players get better with PRACTICE and film study. They don't have to be in the game on Sunday to get better. You may be surprised by this, but ALL NFL players see the field during practice, even practice squad guys.
There were plenty of high draft picks that weren't worth doo-doo in Madden 12. There were plenty of busts. They existed. I still would have enhanced the scouting/progression system.
In the real NFL, J. Russ. didn't have A potential. His perceived potential was an A, but his actual WAS NOT. We could get into an entire discussion about perceived vs (hidden) actual potentials in Madden along with perceived vs actual (hidden) ratings. The more you get to know a player the closer the perceived would get to the actual. An J. Russ guy would come into Madden as a perceived A potential, like all high draft picks would, but would have an F (hidden) actual potential.
It's not an improvement, it's a step backwards. An improvement would be to enhance the existing progression system, adding the many things that we did talk about in the threads you mentioned, making progression much more realistic, not taking a step backwards.
And that's what's unrealistic. You are choosing who works hard and who doesn't. In real life, MD Jennings isn't being held back just because Donald Driver is WORKING HARD. This new system, as I understand it so far (and I could be missing some things) is just plain unrealistic. And to me that is just plain stupid.
You should not have more control over progression. That's not how it works in real life. The only control you should have over progression is who you hire as a coaching staff and how well/who you draft. Scouting should work the same way. Perceived potential vs hidden actual potential. The better your scouting staff the more accurate the scouting reports.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I want more realism, and I want complete customization at the same time. In fact, I want stat based progress and XP progression to exist but not be mandatory. I want to shut stat based and XP off and allow you to turn it on. They should have greatly enhanced the progression that was in Franchise, not scrap it and replace it with something that's even slightly more unrealistic.
Hope that clears up my stance for you.
06-11-2012, 08:29 PM
