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[KnicksFan88]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sydney Deane

Two years and their objective is still bells and whistles.

LoL I Feel you But Those Things are what really Brings the Game Together As Long As The Gameplay is Solid..

[KnicksFan88]

Quote: Originally Posted by gdh5503

These guys spend so much money on strategy marketing and development that they forget about gameplay, player models and AI adaptability. It has been 13 years and we still don't have a basketball sim to revolutionize the way we play basketball games. 2k to me still has another level to go and i don't think they will do it this year either. To me 2K12 was a downgrade. 2K11 was okay... Better than 2K12, but okay. I still don't see it happening this year either. I don't know what they are waiting for but they haven't wowed me. I mean think about it for a second just really sit back and think about it. Have we seen a basketball sim that has revolutionized the way we play simulation basketball? It has been over 13 years we have spent money to play these so called simulation basketball games. I am not talking about the development over the years because I give them credit in the sense that as a game in general they have come pretty far from a graphic standpoint and the things you can do as a user, the moves and stuff you can pull off, but what I am taking about is changing the way we play and the way the AI plays against us. I have not been immersed into a basketball sim yet. Not even 2K has sucked me into that "experience" that they talk about every year. Presentation, gameplay all that is okay but not spectacular the way it is hyped up. I found myself skipping through the Sprint momentum play by play by Doris Burke the halftime report I skip, and the intermissions with other teams that are playing report gets skipped. Even the intros I skipped after a month. I know this thread is about Live 13 but I just got to say it all because they are both making claims about simulation, gameplay experience, ESPN this, Sprite that, and neither Live or 2K has really showed up. Live especially, these dudes been out the game for two years and their build is below average at this point and they don't have very long to go to launch and I fear for them. look how long its been that we have played these basketball games. Just sit and think about it. What are they waiting for, Next Gen consoles? I hope not because we will be right back here again, all next gen is going to be is graphic enhancement. Its been a very long time for these basketball sims and we are still being tickled with gameplay and visuals. Just think about it as a consumer. Does anyone feel cheated but me? Just my opinion either 2K and maybe Live for that matter are holding back for something big for next year because it is not this year and I can guarantee that based on what I have seen so far and we all know they don't have a whole lot of time to scrap and build again before launch or in reality they have reached their CEILING. Both games in my opinion need an EXTREME MAKEOVER from player models not just faces, to presentation and commentary adaptability, replays and halftime reports, a real deep and immersive Dynasty mode, deep and immersive Create a player not just my player but create a player in Dynasty mode, Olympic games and teams not in a mode only but also into the deep and immersive Dynasty mode and so on. Its been 13 years?!!??

I Agree With You On Alot of The Things you Said, Which Needs To Be Said To The people The Really matter and get them to understand. I Feel Cheated But Only For The Last Few Years Because There was only basketball game out. I Feel As Though Live Was Bringing us What True Basketball Fans Needed up to 2010 beside 2007. I Feel Cheated in A Sense The With NBA Games Because They Never Just Go All The Way in, Put Everything in The Game That They Know We Want, especially in The Dynasty Mode Like You Were Saying..

[22cedric]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tyrant8RDFL

Yes Im having a hard time believing with 2 years worth of work on this title,and what they displayed was only at 60% with major bugs, horrible animations , and not being able to showcase more than graphics. With only 4 months away from launch how can we has the consumer feel confident? Man I'm so disappointed

don't worry about this e3 info floating around put the negativity aside & stay positive.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by mvb34

Why is eveyone keeping saying they had 2 years of devolpment when fact is they got rid of the old team except from one person, moved from Canada to Florida. Who knows how long it took them decided what they want and not want, not unlike a sports team who fires their coach and GM the new guy comes in looks around see what he likes and don't like and bring there people and scheme. Before this year I can't remember the last time EA or 2K showed basketball at E3 event. I will give them the benefit of the doubt if only because I want another basketball option.

Actually, in one of the previews, they SAID that this was NOT going to be a 2 year title. So folks can get off that kick, honestly. They said that they took a year to figure out where they were and what they wanted to do. I guess that means they needed to just learn what was there. Makes sense. And so to think that the game is not done... OF COURSE. Sounds a LOT like what VC went through with NHL and MLB. The question is, does Tiburon get as a pass? That's a rhetorical question. No need to answer. To each his own.

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

Actually, in one of the previews, they SAID that this was NOT going to be a 2 year title. So folks can get off that kick, honestly. They said that they took a year to figure out where they were and what they wanted to do. I guess that means they needed to just learn what was there. Makes sense. And so to think that the game is not done... OF COURSE. Sounds a LOT like what VC went through with NHL and MLB. The question is, does Tiburon get as a pass? That's a rhetorical question. No need to answer. To each his own.

Tell me something man

Was there a passionate bball fan alive that played these games that didnt know what was wrong?

[Paul Pierce_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

Tell me something man Was there a passionate bball fan alive that played these games that didnt know what was wrong?

As a guy who dose some coding, it is not as simple as people make it out to be. You can't just remove hunched players in a second and I think that's not what your guys are getting. I'm sure they went through and picked out bits and pieces of the file, which takes 100's if not thousands of hours to do with how complex NBA video games are. So yes, I could see them taking a year to just pick out what things need to be fixed through coding. Then their took this year to implement the programing they want in the game. But I sadly I do not work their to tell you but it's not easy as you guys make it sound.

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Pierce

As a guy who dose some coding, it is not as simple as people make it out to be. You can't just remove hunched players in a second and I think that's not what your guys are getting. I'm sure they went through and picked out bits and pieces of the file, which takes 100's if not thousands of hours to do with how complex NBA video games are. So yes, I could see them taking a year to just pick out what things need to be fixed through coding. Then their took this year to implement the programing they want in the game. But I sadly I do not work their to tell you but it's not easy as you guys make it sound.

Doesn't sound like any other game developing process though

Come on man.. so they removed all the crap in a years time, and then worked on it for a year, and it still looks hunch backed and stiff, and the guys at E3 ALL saw the same legacy issues

So im asking you, whats going on over there?

[EAGLESFAN10]

some of the ppl on here just flat out dont like EA/LIVE its not that hard 2 see

but they gone see when they come swaggin lol