NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM EST

[I Djm]

Quote: Originally Posted by jersez

Just thinking that if live out sells 2k, which will lead to EA buying the NBA rights and we're stuck with Live that's why I'm concern. The live community for the most part is loyal to EA and I don't think 2k has that same customer loyalty. Based on some of these comments, I see that it takes very little to make them mad. While Live fans are just happy to have a game, us 2k fans criticize 2k too much, not saying some of it isn't deserving because it is, but just the fact that most of us can't accept that we saw a early build and its not the final product is troubling. I mean live fans are defending that preview, they understand that their game is only 60% done, it seems that most of us can't grasps that, what we saw isn't the final build and is already making a decision on a game that isn't even released yet.

whoa now live isn't going to outsell 2k this year and i hope david stern wouldn't screw us like that before he retires =s

[I Djm]

Quote: Originally Posted by jersez

Some of you don't understand that sports games and shooters are completely different genres. A shooter is really simplistic compared to trying to replicate a sport. So many possibilities can happen in a sports game, just like in real life, everyone has to move and it can't be scripted like a shooter. Meaning no matter what when I press the melee I will kill my opponent, when I press a button in a sports game I'm not guarantee anything. They have to add so many things to the game just to make it look realistic. I don't expect 2k13 to not have issues, because I understand that sports games are highly complex. That's why Live 13 after two years is still not up to par. If game development was easy then everyone would do it. Stop comparing sport games to other genres of video games because they are not the same.We have to be reasonable people.

you could miss the meele ya know, its happened to me before

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vni

What happens there? Do you mean the terrible layup animation that the player triggers?

Yes. You can be clearly clicking to the right where there's space, yet the player will trigger into a layup that goes BACK INTO the defense. It was frustrating to watch.

Also, this layup animation at the end where he bodies the defender needs to go:



Maybe gives us the option to double clutch there (IE break out the animation)? It would feel more fluid IMO. Nothing more deflating than finally getting a fast break opportunity and getting stuck with that animation.

[Beluba]

Quote: Originally Posted by DukeC

I had faith that it would get fixed. Also, are we more likely to see layups like the one Westbrook did if we get contact while driving to the rim? Those are the types of layups I like to see in traffic (They don't have to necessarily go in, which goes without saying). Also, a lot of us were mightily irritated when this happened: Is this fixed? This happened at the most inopportune times. I almost broke my controller in frustration

We've completely reworked the way we handle contact on drives and shots. Can't talk about it now, but yes, the Westbrook layup is an example of the types of finishes you'll see at the rim this year.

[Vni]

I know you can't answer everybody, and I'am very thankfull that you did came by, but is the speed issue one of you guys priority to fix?

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by Beluba

We've completely reworked the way we handle contact on drives and shots. Can't talk about it now, but yes, the Westbrook layup is an example of the types of finishes you'll see at the rim this year.

Having to manual double clutch after contact to trigger a strong finish animation that improves your chances of making it would be glorious.

[silverskier]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vni

I know you can't answer everybody, and I'am very thankfull that you did came by, but is the speed issue one of you guys priority to fix?

This please!

From my point of view, the gamekillers in nba2k12 are:
- No contact in almost all the up and unders. When there is any of it, it's always a defensive fault :[
-speed of big men, to high! :[
- no contact in a lot of modified drives to the rim :[
- no intelligent move off the ball by your AI teammates - the team needs to have a clear system ( more off screens or more pick and roll/pop, etc! by some kind of sliders or easy on the fly menu/option in every play ) :[
- no intelligent defense - i don't want that my big men, for example, go to the 3 point line covering birdman or mcgee. Even if I put the option manually to not do it, they will do it or the space is not enough
- More effective step backs and running fadeaway shots. I'm not saying to make them a lot more easier, but a little bit more effective, creating more space between defender and attacant. Momentum in both players is needed i think in these cases.
- apart from Ginobili no contact drive to the rim seen in this demo of E3, there are a some more no contact animations under the rim in nba2k12 that are easy buckets. They need to be fixed, please =P


In my opinion, if with all these had been fixed, nba2k12 would have been the best basketball game ever. Let's hope that nba2k13 can deal with almost all of it =]

[DukeC]

@Beluba

This thread is perfect for what we want out as problematic layup animations.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...e-later-5.html