NBA 2K13 Features Sprite Slam Dunk Contest, 3 Point Contest, Rising Stars Challenge

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlakkMajik3000

I find it quite disturbing that the first thing we learn about 2k13 is that they're bringing back ASW. ASW is part of the NBA season, and has been for decades. Thank you for including something that should have been there anyway, and something 2K never gave an explanation for taking out. Also, why is it add-on content? I'm led to believe it won't be integrated into any of the game modes. As someone that plays MP 99% of the time, if ASW isn't included in that mode, I have no use for it. Furthermore, considering it hasn't even been hinted at for the PC version, I am all the more convinced this is just something "tacked on" to quiet down all the people that have been asking for it. Is this a sign that 2K and EA are switching roles? The first thing EA showed off for Live 13 was the "smart" passing (still have mixed feelings about it). You know, something GAMEPLAY related. And what does 2K show off first? "Hai Guyz! We Haz ASW Nao!!". I love 2K, but I want to know about the gameplay. Show me how you fixed the double teams, the passing, rebounding, etc. I want to see improvements/advancements in things that matter to REAL bball fans, not some gimmick to get me to pre-order.

You do realize it is June and this is 2k not Live. 2k never gives us too much information early, and it's an add on just to get people to buy the game early, most game companies no it now. I get is inconvient for some but it makes perfect sense from a business stand point for 2k and they have not been forthcoming with how this feature is to be intergrated into the game, maybe we will learn that info tonight.

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlakkMajik3000

I find it quite disturbing that the first thing we learn about 2k13 is that they're bringing back ASW. ASW is part of the NBA season, and has been for decades. Thank you for including something that should have been there anyway, and something 2K never gave an explanation for taking out. Also, why is it add-on content? I'm led to believe it won't be integrated into any of the game modes. As someone that plays MP 99% of the time, if ASW isn't included in that mode, I have no use for it. Furthermore, considering it hasn't even been hinted at for the PC version, I am all the more convinced this is just something "tacked on" to quiet down all the people that have been asking for it. Is this a sign that 2K and EA are switching roles? The first thing EA showed off for Live 13 was the "smart" passing (still have mixed feelings about it). You know, something GAMEPLAY related. And what does 2K show off first? "Hai Guyz! We Haz ASW Nao!!". I love 2K, but I want to know about the gameplay. Show me how you fixed the double teams, the passing, rebounding, etc. I want to see improvements/advancements in things that matter to REAL bball fans, not some gimmick to get me to pre-order.

To be fair, I think NBA Live has a lot more groundwork to cover. Essentially, everything they show will be something new in some respect.

Traditionally speaking (at the risk of repeating myself), basketball games are not revealing their core features at the beginning of June, four full months prior to release. This is typically a time where if a game is featured at a festival (such as E3), there will be some general sweeping statements about the upcoming iteration, maybe a fluffy draw (cover athlete, pre-order announcement) and some game footage of a playoff matchup that ends up looking like the previous year's game because their builds are still much too young to truly represent the new game.

Also, I'll be quite disappointed if the All-Star Weekend is a stand alone feature (i.e. not tied in to Season, Association or My Player). From the early indications, it doesn't seem as if it's going to tie in, but it'd be nice if it did. That said, I still feel including the ASW is progress. To write it off as, "ASW is part of the NBA season, and has been for decades. Thank you for including something that should have been there anyway, and something 2K never gave an explanation for taking out" is a little harsh. They never had a true All-Star Weekend to begin with and if I had to guess, the streetball dunk contest and 3pt. shootout were likely removed as a part of the ASW re-tooling process.

I suppose I just don't think real-life NBA things are a foregone conclusion to appear in NBA 2K. For instance, when David Stern was added to the NBA Draft, my first thought wasn't, "Yeah, great job 2K. Great job at including something that's been a part of the NBA since 1984 and should have been there anyway."

I understand the disappointment that'd come along with not being able to use the All-Star Weekend in other modes. I don't understand the bitterness at the supposed audacity of 2K including an All-Star Weekend now because they should have before now.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlakkMajik3000

I find it quite disturbing that the first thing we learn about 2k13 is that they're bringing back ASW. ASW is part of the NBA season, and has been for decades. Thank you for including something that should have been there anyway, and something 2K never gave an explanation for taking out.

One, it was never part of the game to begin with. I assume you're referring to Blacktop mode, which as I posted before many people here wanted them to remove years ago because THEY saw no value in it.

To my knowledge most games don't offer the full All-Star package as part of their respective games. For example, I don't know if they do QB or skills challenges anymore during the NFL Pro Bowl, but I'm just about positive all Madden offers is the Pro Bowl itself In baseball, I know games offer the All-Star game and the Home Run Derby, but don't think they offer legends games or whatever else goes on during that period. I'm not even sure Home Run Derby is even integrated into the franchise mode of the baseball games. I don't know about the hockey or soccer games. It'd be nice to have ASW as part of the various gameplay modes but I don't think people should be making blanket statements that it's useless if it isn't part of franchise, My Player, etc.

ASW isn't that big a deal to me. But as a preorder incentive it does make me more likely to preorder than not. I wouldn't expect it to be integrated into the games' various play modes if only because it'd be difficult from a programmatical standpoint. The real NBA suffers from not having top tier players get involved with the slam dunk competition for example. Given how much people here cry about needing realism, I don't think there'd be a lot of enjoyment playing the mode with mostly B-listers. Either way I just don't see it as being all that easy to program for. And given with any misstep there's the potential many people would declare the mode useless anyway, I don't know that it makes sense to dedicate resources attempting to get it to work in the various game modes in the short term.

[Colts18]

Why is this so hard to understand? 2K fans have been craving a real all star weekend for years and when they finally deliver it, it isn't even part of association mode. What is so hard to understand about the idea that people want to play it during association mode and not as a stand alone mode? Yes it matters that it is a stand alone mode. That is not what people wanted. So they are upset. Simple math.

[BlakkMajik3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

To be fair, I think NBA Live has a lot more groundwork to cover. Essentially, everything they show will be something new in some respect. Traditionally speaking (at the risk of repeating myself), basketball games are not revealing their core features at the beginning of June, four full months prior to release. This is typically a time where if a game is featured at a festival (such as E3), there will be some general sweeping statements about the upcoming iteration, maybe a fluffy draw (cover athlete, pre-order announcement) and some game footage of a playoff matchup that ends up looking like the previous year's game because their builds are still much too young to truly represent the new game. Also, I'll be quite disappointed if the All-Star Weekend is a stand alone feature (i.e. not tied in to Season, Association or My Player). From the early indications, it doesn't seem as if it's going to tie in, but it'd be nice if it did. That said, I still feel including the ASW is progress. To write it off as, "ASW is part of the NBA season, and has been for decades. Thank you for including something that should have been there anyway, and something 2K never gave an explanation for taking out" is a little harsh. They never had a true All-Star Weekend to begin with and if I had to guess, the streetball dunk contest and 3pt. shootout were likely removed as a part of the ASW re-tooling process. I suppose I just don't think real-life NBA things are a foregone conclusion to appear in NBA 2K. For instance, when David Stern was added to the NBA Draft, my first thought wasn't, "Yeah, great job 2K. Great job at including something that's been a part of the NBA since 1984 and should have been there anyway." I understand the disappointment that'd come along with not being able to use the All-Star Weekend in other modes. I don't understand the bitterness at the supposed audacity of 2K including an All-Star Weekend now because they should have before now.

I understand what you're saying. And no, I don't expect 2K to spill the beans on 2k13 this early. However, the fact they chose this big announcement to say ASW is now in the game smells of them trying to get the casual gamer to buy in right away, before revealing anything the more hardcore among us care about.

Also, you must remember that NBA 2K is looked at as the #1 NBA simulation game out there. So yes, there are certain expectations that come along with that rank, one of them being ASW.

I think I would be more excited if ASW was actually integrated into the game modes (Association and MP at the very least), and not some tacked on gimmick to try and boost pre-orders.

[NINJAK2]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlakkMajik3000

I find it quite disturbing that the first thing we learn about 2k13 is that they're bringing back ASW. ASW is part of the NBA season, and has been for decades. Thank you for including something that should have been there anyway, and something 2K never gave an explanation for taking out. Also, why is it add-on content? I'm led to believe it won't be integrated into any of the game modes. As someone that plays MP 99% of the time, if ASW isn't included in that mode, I have no use for it. Furthermore, considering it hasn't even been hinted at for the PC version, I am all the more convinced this is just something "tacked on" to quiet down all the people that have been asking for it. Is this a sign that 2K and EA are switching roles? The first thing EA showed off for Live 13 was the "smart" passing (still have mixed feelings about it). You know, something GAMEPLAY related. And what does 2K show off first? "Hai Guyz! We Haz ASW Nao!!". I love 2K, but I want to know about the gameplay. Show me how you fixed the double teams, the passing, rebounding, etc. I want to see improvements/advancements in things that matter to REAL bball fans, not some gimmick to get me to pre-order.

Don't jump to conclusions Black that 2k isn't focusing on gameplay elements for 2k13. Just because they are announcing All-Star Weekend 1st doesn't mean they didn't work on other areas of the game. With guys like Beluba, DaCzar, etc. putting their heads together they want this title to be as realistic as possible imo.

Live on the other hand is coming off a disaster of a title and they really need to convince the buying public that they know what the hell they are doing when developing an NBA title. They lost a lot of respect especially coming off a solid title in Live 10. They can't just pimp ASW when they couldn't even get the basics right...

[DaImmaculateONe]

Will you be able to play any of this stuff online against other people?

[TrapStar215]

Quote: Originally Posted by NYCNNJ

How about this? Everyone doesn't have money to pre-order it! Plus, it should be in the game to begin with!

Kid.....IT'S 5 DOLLARS!!!!! It's no law saying what they have to add to THEIR game.


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