Charting the Change in Rookie Ratings in Madden

[PGaither84]

A lot of those rookie ratting in Madden 07 were pretty spot on. Davis is a Beast, Manny Lawson was only a tiny bit over rated. He flat lined at about an 80-82 OVR as a 49er. We have seen what Reggie and others have done. I'd like to see where those same rookies OVR ratings are now in Madden 12.

[Vaporub83]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dj_MyTime

I like the drop in overalls, but IMO the ovr rating is irrelevant. It's a place-holder fro the CPU depth chart. Example Wes Welker is the highest rated Patriots receiver, their playbook is designed to have the no. 2 WR (Wes Welker) in the slot by DEFAULT (no manual/formation subs); but, because of the way things work currently he would line up at no. 1 without user adjustments and in any game vs the CPU you get a less realistic experience from an X's and O's stand-point as far as where he'd normally line up. IMO the rookies 'positional stats' are too high and leave little room for improvement/progression. See Below... 1 Andrew Luck QB Colts ovr 85 spd 82 agi 84 inj 98 awr 62 tpw 92 tas 93 tam 92 tad 75 2 Robert Griffin III QB Redskins ovr 83 spd 93 agi 96 inj 85 awr 55 tpw 96 tas 82 tam 86 tad 88 Those are their ratings coming out. I'm not saying they won't have great careers but Luck is better/as good as guys like Manning, Brees, Brady, Rodgers accuracy wise right out the box. I'm not saying he isn't an accurate QB but 93 SAC, and 92 MAC as a rookie, he may as well not even progress. I'd think low to mid 80's, since he likely has 'A' potential he will progress quickly and reach the 90's in accuracy but having them that high from the beginning is a bit much IMO. Griffin's aren't as high but he's already on par with Matt Schaub's accuracy if memory serves, and he's a pro-bowler. I understand these are supposed to be once in a generation type players, BUT they still have to play first, I'd be much more in agreement with under-rating players coming out, then adjusting once they play in the NFL.

Realistically there isn't a way to fix that. Bottom line if you are a rookie or a veteran physical attributes should be on a standard scale. Accuracy is a physical thing that shouldn't change just because you are in the NFL

[jeremym480]

Hopefully, the ratings in Madden 13 continue the current trend, but my guess is Luck and RG III come in rated as top 10-12 QB's before taking a snap. Same thing with my boy Trent Richardson.

[TheShizNo1]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

A lot of those rookie ratting in Madden 07 were pretty spot on. Davis is a Beast, Manny Lawson was only a tiny bit over rated. He flat lined at about an 80-82 OVR as a 49er. We have seen what Reggie and others have done. I'd like to see where those same rookies OVR ratings are now in Madden 12.

No sit. Manny Lawson could stay how he is b/c there was nothing in those games to define pass rushers the way there is now. Davis was considered a bust a long time before he broke out. They also had Laurence(?) Maroney(?) at like 86. Is he even in the league still? Like you said, Bush was rated as the man in that backfield.

[Dj_MyTime]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vaporub83

Realistically there isn't a way to fix that. Bottom line if you are a rookie or a veteran physical attributes should be on a standard scale. Accuracy is a physical thing that shouldn't change just because you are in the NFL

But it does change...it goes up, which adds to OLF/Offline Franchise immersion. At a stand still I'd imagine Luck may be as accurate as the players I mentioned. But it's a different story when the bullets fly and that's what we're yet to see.

80-85 allows him to make all the throws, but doesn't put him at elite status out of the box. Now if he hits the ground running move him up, but there have been too many busts to say he and Griffin will do it for sure.

[DeuceDouglas]

I'd like to see Rookies across the board have lower ratings. I think M12 did a good job with it. I don't think anybody should be entering the league at much higher than an 80. I think they should change how potential works as well and let them progress or digress based on age and production.

[PGaither84]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

No sit. Manny Lawson could stay how he is b/c there was nothing in those games to define pass rushers the way there is now. Davis was considered a bust a long time before he broke out. They also had Laurence(?) Maroney(?) at like 86. Is he even in the league still? Like you said, Bush was rated as the man in that backfield.

Who thought Davis was a bust? people who didn't watch the 49ers?

He was hurt most his rookie season, and Singletary straighted his attitude out in year 3... so after his 2nd year in the NFL people were calling him a bust. Talk about knee jerk.

Also, Maroney had a very nice rookie season behind Correy Dillon... and then he stagnated.

As I said, I would love to see where those high rated rookie are now and how different their ratings are today. Some up, some down, many about the same I think. Just my guess.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

He was hurt most his rookie season, and Singletary straighted his attitude out in year 3... so after his 2nd year in the NFL people were calling him a bust. Talk about knee jerk.

That's the way it works. You come out as the sixth overall pick and put up three very average seasons heading into the highest paid years of your contract and it's going to garner that kind of reaction. Obviously, it didn't turn out to be that way but at the time I'm sure there were plenty of people feeling like it was a bust at that time.