Madden NFL 13 Video - Gameplay With Jim Nantz and Phil Simms In-Game Commentary

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

True, but deeming an entire component as a failure after hearing less than 1% of what it has to offer is a little premature, no?

Short answer, yes. But I think 2 things are going on...

1 - Folks are judging what they see today. Nothing wrong with that as that's what the vid is for.
2 - Folks, based on past experiecne, are then responding to others saying it's only a WIP. Nothing wrong with that either.

Sure, this could be the year Madden shows us one thing & releases a better version later. We're all hoping for this.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Aren't we juding what we see NOW though? Maybe I should just speak for myself, but if I were to voice my opinion of the commentary in the vid, it would be just that, my opinion on the commentary in THIS vid. Now, I do understand folks feeling like this is what we're going to get because little ever changes from even the earliest vids (not counting rosters, blatant glitches, etc). But we're still talking about what we're seeing now. Isn't that why the vid is posted? Aren't we supposed to be discussing what we like & don't like?

C'mon Bezo, we are discussing a commentary build in May and now through that tweet we know it's old, whatever that means. My point is I will discuss it in context, not as if this is a sign of the "fail" or "success" that is to come. If I was remodeling a home you were thinking about buying and I showed you a video walk through 9 months into a 12 month project, we would discuss it in that context.

There will be plenty of time and more warranted criticism after E3 to discuss how we all feel what has been shown will effect the M13 final build, imo.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by ABR173rd

I just don't get this, it's a total franchise killer as it detracts from the individual players themselves and the franchise's storyline. MLB the Show can do it, NBA2k can do it, so why is it so hard for EA to record all of the names in the game. I noticed on the V-Jax TD and on the Int there was no commentary on either player that made a big play. Using "He" is a cop out in 2012. In the NFL they would have mentioned every player that made a play by name and usually coupled that with some information regarding that player. It's easy to say yes EA is headed in the right direction, and to some extent I can concede that. But overall from what I've witnessed so far EA is still playing catchup and will be for awhile. Hopefully June 4th has the "updated" commentary...

Not to speak for Chase and I have no idea how this all turns out but I was thinking that quoting his post would help explain the "he" commentary in the video. Not meaning that there will only be "he" commentary in the final build but understanding that is the base reference point now instead of numbers. So it would seem possible that this build did not contain whatever player name audio data base just the generic "he" foundation. The next implementation could then replace "he" with a name in the audio library if there is one and if not "he" would still be said.

I hope that made sense. lol

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

C'mon Bezo, we are discussing a commentary build in May and now through that tweet we know it's old, whatever that means. My point is I will discuss it in context, not as if this is a sign of the "fail" or "success" that is to come.

I agree, we can only discuss it in context. But you can't blame folks for taking the next step given Madden's past. It wouldn't be the first time we saw a vid this early only to see the same in the final release.

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

If I was remodeling a home you were thinking about buying and I showed you a video walk through 9 months into a 12 month project, we would discuss it in that context.

Unless you had a history like Madden's where not much changes in the last few months.

[djordan]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Unless you had a history like Madden's where not much changes in the last few months.

Exactly! If I saw the contractor's work beforehand no way would I believe anything will change between the 9-12 month mark.

[Big FN Deal]

I see I used a poor analogy. lol

Anyway, I think people should wait til at least E3.

Funny things is, even if June 4th is BIG and the game looks much improved at E3, some people, including myself will still say, can't be sure til August. However, if E3 is underwhelming, those same people, including me, will think August will be more of the same. lol

That's the just the way things are, it is what is.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I see I used a poor analogy. lol Anyway, I think people should wait til at least E3. Funny things is, even if June 4th is BIG and the game looks much improved at E3, some people, including myself will still say, can't be sure til August. However, if E3 is underwhelming, those same people, including me, will think August will be more of the same. lol That's the just the way things are, it is what is.

Me personally E3 is all I need.

I think I also need to make clear that commentary will not be a deciding factor for me. What will be is the execution of the game. I' am not a fan of the animations this engine produces , but if the gameplay is executed good. Than that is good enough for me.

[djordan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I see I used a poor analogy. lol Anyway, I think people should wait til at least E3. Funny things is, even if June 4th is BIG and the game looks much improved at E3, some people, including myself will still say, can't be sure til August. However, if E3 is underwhelming, those same people, including me, will think August will be more of the same. lol That's the just the way things are, it is what is.

LOL yeah you did.I disagree with your statment though. If the commentary makes a 180 turn along with the implementation of real time physics in regards to tackling, and smoother animations (running) at E3 I won't complain.