OS Roundtable: What do you think of the NCAA Football Gameplay Enhancements?

[rudyjuly2]

Quote: Originally Posted by BA2929

I'm mildly excited about 13. They say they fixed Super LBs and Psychic DBs, and I'll believe them until I see that it isn't fixed. Also, I was really getting tired of how the QB play has worked the past few years. Just got old that a majority of the time you could only hit certain routes, and I ended up throwing those routes over and over again. Hopefully in 13, I can throw to more than 3-4 routes on a drive. I'm just happy they're working on GAMEPLAY and not Road to the Heisman and Mascot Games.

Totally agree with this. The new timing changes to the passing game and new trajectories should improve this area, especially routes to the outside WR like comebacks.

I was very pessimistic about NCAA 13 given my utter dislike of NCAA 12 but so far so good. The truth is I've enjoyed the odd version years of NCAA and hated the even years. Hopefully that continues with NCAA 13 as I miss dynasty mode.

[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by mkharsh33

Let's not brag too much on the physics engine of NHL12... In that game a midget could take out Chara, so it was more myth than reality... Once again, the EA hype machine creating a stir for something that really wasn't close to how they made it sound in their advertisements.

Never played NHL12 but the same goes for FIFA. For the most part momentum is completely overlooked. CPU players turn and spin on a dime as if all of their agility ratings are in the 90s. The new physics engine completely ignores weight and force. I applaud the idea of the new engine but frown at the implementation. Sadly this is something that is far too common with EA games.

[Rudolph999]

They had a shrine in previous versions. now nothing ever mentioned.

[bigsmallwood]

The more I looked at the NCAA 13 video and played NCAA 11 and 12... The more I realize that their gameplay enhancements are starting to come off like a gimmick. Everything from the supposed new passing system, to the new trajectories. Everything in the live gameplay video looked the same as last year and the one before. I am going to wait for June 4th, but everything points to no real innovation.

[acts238shaun]

I'm not trying to be one of those nyah-nyah's that tries to ruin it for everyone, but after the debacles that were Fight Night Champion and NCAA 12 I'm never buying an EA game on release day again, if ever (old Tiger Woods exception). B-Day gift would be only way and even them I may return it.

[UltimateAvgGuy]

I am convinced that 99.9% of people here wouldn't have as much of a problem with the games if they didnt read these forums...I try to buy the games and tweak them to the point to where I get enjoyment out of them...I understand that people want to have playable games but you cant expect everything to be perfect!!

I enjoy the game of football so this will be a definite buy for me...the engine "sucked" just as bad in the PS2 days but we all used to have a good time before we were spoiled with sliders and the ability to nitpick and find problems to talk about on forums.

[radiohead]

Quote: Originally Posted by UltimateAvgGuy

I am convinced that 99.9% of people here wouldn't have as much of a problem with the games if they didnt read these forums...I try to buy the games and tweak them to the point to where I get enjoyment out of them...I understand that people want to have playable games but you cant expect everything to be perfect!! I enjoy the game of football so this will be a definite buy for me...the engine "sucked" just as bad in the PS2 days but we all used to have a good time before we were spoiled with sliders and the ability to nitpick and find problems to talk about on forums.

Where is the logic in this post?

First off, your post has a latent admission that there were problems with the engine on the previous gen.

However, years later the game is still using that very same engine. Therefore, your post, at the very least, cedes that certain problems have plagued the series for years.

Secondly, if you tweak the game to the point where you can enjoy it, wouldn't you also be guilty of using the same sliders that you claim have spoiled gamers? If you're tweaking the game, you're doing so with sliders.

Furthermore, it logically does not follow that "we all used to have a good time" in the PS2 days before we were spoiled with sliders. Sliders were in every PS2 game. In fact, they've remained virtually unchanged since then (another indictment of the series).

Lastly, this series and its issues were discussed just as passionately on forums during the PS2 days. The chorus just seems to have grown louder.

That cacophony of criticism should not be blamed on forums nor on spoiled gamers. It should be blamed on EA as they have turned a once shining series into unremarkable, non-innovative also-ran.

[Armor and Sword]

Quote: Originally Posted by radiohead

Where is the logic in this post? First off, your post has a latent admission that there were problems with the engine on the previous gen. However, years later the game is still using that very same engine. Therefore, your post, at the very least, cedes that certain problems have plagued the series for years. Secondly, if you tweak the game to the point where you can enjoy it, wouldn't you also be guilty of using the same sliders that you claim have spoiled gamers? If you're tweaking the game, you're doing so with sliders. Furthermore, it logically does not follow that "we all used to have a good time" in the PS2 days before we were spoiled with sliders. Sliders were in every PS2 game. In fact, they've remained virtually unchanged since then (another indictment of the series). Lastly, this series and its issues were discussed just as passionately on forums during the PS2 days. The chorus just seems to have grown louder. That cacophony of criticism should not be blamed on forums nor on spoiled gamers. It should be blamed on EA as they have turned a once shining series into unremarkable, non-innovative also-ran.

I think what he was trying to articulate was with the forums and the internet today people come here read a ton of impressions, bug threads...t and then get things in their head and don't just play the game, tweak a little and enjoy it first before reading so many opinions about it.

I think people fall into this trap and get a pre-mediated approach to the game and look for stuff to pick apart and not like before just relaxing and firing up the game and playing it.

I fortunately do not. I love this board. It has become my favorite place to hang out on the internet as there are a bunch of great guys here who share the same passion and approach to sports gaming that I do. It is those people that I have become friends with here that I trust. And we will sometimes disagree about certain games and sometimes actually help each other on how to approach the game to enjoy it better.

I have no problems with all the banter....because birds of a feather flock together. You have those that feel EA can't do any right and will moan and complain (and in their mind rightfully so as it is subjective not fact when someone thinks a game stinks) and then those who love it all....and then those who are actually moderates....like me, who first will play a game a bunch..give it a fair test drive and then determine an appropiate opinion about the game formed not on emotion, quick or rash judgement. But on what I love to do.....playing the game.

The video looks like last years game.....looks being the key word. We have no idea how it really sounds, feels or plays until we have the retail copy in our hands. I was never expecting any graphical changes...at all. How can we judge audio on a u-tube video? No way. I want to hear it through my 7.1 system on my HDTV. How can we feel how tackling is this year and the new passing system works without playing it?

We can't.

I am apprehensive....like many. I don't want a roster update. I want some tweaks and some innovation. My hope is the new passing system kicks *** and changes the game from that perspective, the tackling is improved and I can feel it like I did on 2011 and I hope the new and improved presentation package immerses my dynasty even deeper.

I won't know any of this until I play it. 44.99 is a risk worth taking.....if it does not work out it was a 15 dollar rental.