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Old 02-26-2012, 02:04 PM   #129
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I'm kinda leery with Tiburon studio developing the game after what's been going on all these years with the football titles, but I don't want to write it off because of that. Basketball is a different sport with different challenges so who knows. Looking forward to finding out info though


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Old 02-26-2012, 04:48 PM   #130
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Fifa 11 and 12 have different engines. 11 choose a animation to play back while 12 create animations on the fly based on where the contact was made and other factors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVpb7Bi_H0

Frostbite 2 is more of a graphics engine that animates the environment such as destructible buildings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln0D3Fx-v3k

Even need for speed the run use frostbite 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWAfxuBoKV4

Frostbite 2 has nothing to do with character animations and that's why Dice was looking at Natural Motions but decided to go with the engine the Fifa team created. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXaFw7aC9GE

Its the same engine with different tech added to them for different types of games.

Now Elite 11 did have a new physics engine you can't just remove all can animations and not apply something their to fill in the hole. Yes it was a new physics engine and no it wasn't complete. All games have physics in them but they can be used in different ways, do some research and you will see.

All EA has done was built off Elite and named it Live again, that's why they're saying the future of basketball and to me all that is saying is that they laid down a good foundation to build off of for the future of NBA Live, but at the same time we still don't know how much is done with all the time they have.
I don't think you understand what I am trying to say.

Whatever, I am not going to derail this and go back and forth. The only thing I will comment on is the "do some research and you will see" part. One I have done the research. And second I am programmer who has used multiple game engines such as UDK, CryEngine 3, Unity and another software. I am currently developing my own game. I am full aware of how games are made and what they use.

Anyways in the end whatever engine they use or rebuilt, I hope NBA Live 13 will be a great game. Carry on and have a nice day.
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Old 02-27-2012, 12:05 AM   #131
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The last thing EA needs to do is to come out talking about they're using another game/sports tactics

Just like the hockey thing didn't go over, fifa aint basketball either and the court and field are two different measurements and so are the running motions
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Old 02-27-2012, 02:42 AM   #132
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I don't think you understand what I am trying to say.

Whatever, I am not going to derail this and go back and forth. The only thing I will comment on is the "do some research and you will see" part. One I have done the research. And second I am programmer who has used multiple game engines such as UDK, CryEngine 3, Unity and another software. I am currently developing my own game. I am full aware of how games are made and what they use.

Anyways in the end whatever engine they use or rebuilt, I hope NBA Live 13 will be a great game. Carry on and have a nice day.
I work in the gaming industry. For a game like basketball, it would be pretty hard to implement something like Natural Motion, simply because the consoles are not powerful enough to handle that much processing. All of the collision variables youd have to take into account. So I'm basing my opinion off of what consoles are actually capable. And I dont see how the future of basketball will be displayed in Live 13 when its using 6 year old hardware.
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Old 02-27-2012, 02:47 AM   #133
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I have to say I'm surprised they've even bothered getting this out for the current systems. At this point I almost feel like they'd just be better off waiting for the new systems to come out (which apparently aren't that far off) and starting fresh then whatever they're doing now.

That said, I am glad they decided to bring out a game this year. It's always better to have 2 options. I'm just curious to see how much they've really changed, or if they just went back and built on what Live 10 did, which I wouldn't have a problem with.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:15 AM   #134
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I work in the gaming industry. For a game like basketball, it would be pretty hard to implement something like Natural Motion, simply because the consoles are not powerful enough to handle that much processing. All of the collision variables youd have to take into account. So I'm basing my opinion off of what consoles are actually capable. And I dont see how the future of basketball will be displayed in Live 13 when its using 6 year old hardware.
So I guess it was to powerfull for backbreaker that has 22 players on the feild?
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Old 02-27-2012, 08:19 AM   #135
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So I guess it was to powerfull for backbreaker that has 22 players on the feild?
Lol. I dunno if Subversion is truly a gaming industry insider but in his defense, Backbreaker wasn't that great. The game seemed very bareboned and I don't know if it could have handled more than it did. Maybe that's apart of why NM didn't create a true sequel to it.
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:33 AM   #136
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I am hoping that them strategically using the phrase "future of basketball..." has something to do with an NCAA integration.

Probably wishful thinking, but it'd be awesome to have some sort of myplayer mode that starts with the McDonald's All American High School game, through college, and into the NBA.

Even more awesomeness for being able to decide when you enter the NBA draft with some sort of risk factor depending on when you do.
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