MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Cubs vs. Cardinals (OS Exclusive) - Part 3

[Vashyron.]

Quote: Originally Posted by WhiteM5

Hey Vash, I'm on-board for making sure the physics are as real as they can be, but were you taking into account the timing of the bat and not just location? For example, the real-life Barney triple clearly is middle-in and you can see him slightly late, pulling his hands in to get around. I watched the MLB 12 vids closely, and from what I could tell, timing seemed to make a big difference as to pull or opposite field. I was pretty satisfied that a middle-in pitch could (and should) go opposite (or result in being jammed) given a swing that is slightly late. Same for outside pitches...swinging early would result in a pulled grounder (or weakly pulled).

I really don't think Barney would hit an inside pitch on the black that far unless he turns on it. If he's late on an inside pitch like that, I could see him being able to muscle a blooper between the infield and outfield or hitting a soft liner. That pitch in the video for the triple was about half over the middle and half on the inner portion so it was middle-in, much different than being on the black, plus the pitch was up as well. And, I don't think Jon Jay could hit that pitch where he did in the game in real life either.

[WhiteM5]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vashyron.

I really don't think Barney would hit an inside pitch on the black that far unless he turns on it. If he's late on an inside pitch like that, I could see him being able to muscle a blooper between the infield and outfield or hitting a soft liner. That pitch in the video for the triple was about half over the middle and half on the inner portion so it was middle-in, much different than being on the black, plus the pitch was up as well. And, I don't think Jon Jay could hit that pitch where he did in the game in real life either.

Playing devil's advocate...Barney had a HR in the gameplay demo..and so did Jay...perhaps the difficulty was allowing for *enhanced* physics. Until we get our hands on the final version, I think its too early to critique just yet. I agree the past versions were poorly handling opposite field hits...no question there. But I'm kinda liking what I saw in the vids of 12.

[Bulls321974]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Sorry - these arguments don't hold water. I looked up Barney's highlights last year and what's the first one I see? Pitch on the inner part of the plate and he takes it to right center 10 ft. short of the warning track. Yeah - totally can't hit the ball straight away center if gets the barrel out and has great timing. Edit - are we seriously going to harp on why there wasn't real physics in past games? How many games promote true physics? Anyone?

Couldn't agree more...

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vashyron.

Oh, and Jon Jay can't take a inside fastball, hit a long fly ball, and hit it past the centerfielder to left-center like that either. I could see him doing that on a pitch middle to away and getting full arm extensive a few times a season.

Depends on where he is in on the box. The game doesn't allow you to move your batter but to say "never?" That's not in my vocabulary. I've seen players do things you wouldn't imagine with fans always saying never.

We're not discussing a 500 ft. bomb, we're discussing tens of feet and when you say never, there's no argument here - just your opinion that no one can change.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vashyron.

I totally don't understand how a pitch middle of the plate and up is the SAME thing as hitting a pitch that's belt high and on the black of the inside corner. I wasn't saying Barney couldn't hit a ball that far, I'm saying he can't on that pitch.

Guess we have differing viewpoints. Oh well.

[Bulls321974]

Finally we can watch some very nice gameplay videos. The additions to this year's game are awesome. I really wonder why there are still so many people demanding something like an "overhaul" or even a "major overhaul". If there is one game that doesn't need that, it's MLB The Show. The game has always been great because it is a true baseball simulation and this game continues to get better each and every year.

Very positively to mention:

- Ball physics (this game will definitely play like a totally different and much better game)
- No sound anymore during replays (e.g. when the bat hits the ball or a runner is sliding to base)
- Greatly looking overlay design
- Cumulative stats (underneath the score bug) are back
- New cumulative stat overlays during the game (e.g. HR team leaders)
- New broadcast style (cutscenes) is simply amazing (and we just have seen little about that yet)
- New and different music before the inning breaks
- Seems like the uniforms now stay dirty when batters reappear at bat

Please, guys: Fix the Chicago Cubs shoe glitch. As long as I've been playing "The Show" their shoes have always been partly gray and we have no chance to fix that ourselves.

Love the game from what I've seen yet and can't wait till March 6th! Great job!

[misterkrabz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yankees2009Champs

Looks exactly like MLB 11 guys. Barely anything has changed.

I agree...i don't really see any recognizable difference.

[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by misterkrabz

I agree...i don't really see any recognizable difference.

If you two mean.....AWESOME....yeah...you're right!

M.K.
Knight165

[jmik58]

Quote: Originally Posted by misterkrabz

I agree...i don't really see any recognizable difference.