2K Sports Announces NBA 2K12: Game of the Year Edition

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by houstonsdream

slap in the fact to the community. 2k your fans are here and the DLC should have been free. Dont turn into activision and start doing DLC for every game you make to rake in xtra $. 2k shouldnt turn into a product you are pimping like the COD series is

Funny - people make this claim on something that took a significant of amount of development time yet they are willing to pay for sneakers and jerseys.

Quote: Originally Posted by Court_vision

The thing I don't get is why does LDK jump into a forum and say "what art updates do you want?"........and then Ronnie 2K says "big surprise coming"......and then ZERO art updates / big surprise is a cheaper version will drop March 11.

And it's their fault for your expectations............? One had nothing to do with the other.

[bedwardsroy19]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

And it's their fault for your expectations............? One had nothing to do with the other.

Personally I had hoped for art modifications but the announcement was nearly exactly what I expected.

I think the only thing I really fault 2K for is saying there would be modifications, knows we're excited and looking for them, and hype another announcement that doesn't effect current game owners while leaving the modifications unaddressed.

The big difference for me is expectations and hope. They are giving off false hope with these "announcement coming" tweets but they aren't giving me false expectations

[Pared]

Problem is - Ronnie isn't the guy to be focused on with these sort of things. His job is to promote - you would think people realize this by now. He goes out of his way to mention other things but it's really not his area.

The focus should be on the Insider.

[Jakeness23]

Quote: Originally Posted by Court_vision

I don't see the big deal in the price drop personally........and this version doesn't even come out until March 11. That's a long time after the first release...it's a fair enough time to drop the price. To be brutally honest...there's enough "returned" and "used" 2K12 copies around to pick it up very cheaply anyway. You can also get the PC version...which has some incredible mods (free) for as little as $10. This "re release" on March 11 is marketing and nothing else. The thing I don't get is why does LDK jump into a forum and say "what art updates do you want?"........and then Ronnie 2K says "big surprise coming"......and then ZERO art updates / big surprise is a cheaper version will drop March 11. Ummmm...hype everyone up for that? Nice way to piss off everyone who has the game and was waiting on legit art updates. 99% of people following Ronnie 2K would be people who already own the game. Why hype them up with a "big surprise" and then reveal it basically be "guess what it is? we are selling the game cheaper to guys who haven't bought it yet!". These guys are their own worst enemies. Ronnie 2K should be selling used cars...he's just got zero credibility left in the community. I honestly have no idea how 2K still have him as their PR guy. He's legitimately bad. He's the Toney Douglas of PR...these guys need someone else. Personally, I won't be buying the 360 version again due to the lack of support. Half hearted roster updates, bits and pieces at odd dates...it's just been a let down IMO. On the other hand........the PC version is great value for money though and I'll be grabbing it (only) from now on.

Wow, you read my mind... exactly how I've been feeling all year about this game and the people working on it.

[Altimus]

LOL

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[kbmnm247]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

As I said I know my views don't necessarily reflect the views of the major posters now and that's something I can accept. But I don't see how this is any different from any of the many Game of the Year edition of other games. Unless, 2K is simply being held to a different standard. PLEASE tell me how it's different. I'm looking at my shelf - Call of Duty, GTA, Red Dead Redemption, Fallout. All had multiple DLC releases that were bundled at a lower price point after all the DLC released. That's the benefit you gain of not being an early adopter if you're willing to wait.

Did any of these game of the years + DLC packages come out before the next version game out? Or within 7 months of initial release? Red Dead as far as I know doesn't come with the DLC in the GOTY package, neither does Call of Duty. Hell, black ops DLC is still $15. Either way, you can't name a sports game that has ever done this, so the comparison isn't the same.

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I've always thought it was well known that if you're willing to wait, you're likely to get more for less. Many times companies offer preorder bonuses where you get free content for getting the game (or product) early. But at some point the game/product is going to come down in price, and they'll likely throw in what was earlier paid content as incentive for purchasing at a later date. I really don't understand the outrage with this one. Your saying you'd be happy if 2K came in and said the DLC is free for those that purchased the game up to date seems somewhat selfish - what about the people that purchased the game AND the DLC? What accommodation is 2K responsible for in that scenario? Because in your example, technically they should be entitled to something more. Or are they entitled to nothing? Again, I don't see these types of expectations being placed on any other sports game dev.

The people that paid for the DLC should be upset, but they paid $10 to play it earlier than the rest of us who had to wait for it to become free. Just as I said, I am not mad the GOTY version is $50, I paid the $10 extra to play the game before all of the people who had to wait. What I am mad at is that these people will also be getting the DLC for free meanwhile I'll have to still pay the $10... how does that make sense? If trading in games wasn't so against the consumer, I'd gladly go trade in my game straight up for the GOTY version and get free DLC...

[kbmnm247]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Funny - people make this claim on something that took a significant of amount of development time yet they are willing to pay for sneakers and jerseys. And it's their fault for your expectations............? One had nothing to do with the other.

I wouldn't want to pay for sneakers or jerseys either. But that's besides the point.

Your point about sig. amount of dev time is moot is it not? They are the ones offering it for free? We never asked for it to be free. But now that it is free, why shouldn't it be free to everyone?

I guess that's my main issue (and one that I'm speculating on because who knows if it will be free on march 11). Forget about those who paid day one and also day one for DLC, they are kinda screwed but at least they had "advantages" to buying early. But why should I (day 1 customer) have to pay for DLC that a day 200 customer is getting for free (and is paying $10 less for the actual game, as expected, too)? If you can give me what seems like a legit reason I won't harp on the issue.

[JaySmooov]

So 2K includes more content for...less.

But if I want same content, I have to pay...more?

Uh, yeah, ok 2K. I'm really looking forward to info from EA now.