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rm80rams · 02-09-2012, 06:58 PM

Its pointless to even talk about Madden. We all know their game will stay mediocre and hardly improve year after year. They have so many casual gamers and fanboys that get the game regardless if it is good or bad. Unless the impossible happens and EA dramatically improves the game, hardcore gamers shouldn't even waste their time on this game. The only way that developers will be motivated to actually improve the game is if EA gives up the NFL license and 2K makes football games again because then there will be competition.

deacon21206 · 02-09-2012, 10:41 PM

Good:

Defensive A.I. got better

Passing game got better.

Bad:

That doesn't really say too much due to the fact that it was horrendous last year.

The disabling of a true hit stick.

Dynamic player mechanic didn't function properly. ( leading to missing wide open wrs or excessive amount of drops or missed tackles.)

Overall player logic at times. (blocking, zone coverage, tackling angles.)

Ugly:

The lack of animations for catches, tackles, movement, OL/DL, WR/DB, an overall physicality.

No real physics system. In regards to momentum, cutbacks, speed, or weight

The over powered cut and chop blocks.

Bad passing angles.

Exploiting broken mechanics in the system was way more affective than having football knowledge or better play calling.

Attributes way to often seem not to even matter.

packerbacker12 · 02-10-2012, 01:42 AM

Hey Armor & Sword -

I really appreciated your take on the game. It sounds like we approach Madden in the same way. I feel like the people who gripe about every little thing go in looking to find the flaws. I just don't go in that way. Anyway, I'm wondering what set of sliders you use to get games that you like. My xbox as been out of commission since July but I just picked up a nice new flat screen and am going to go pick up Madden 12 this weekend.

Owned every Madden up until '11 but I think I'm going to come late to the Madden 12 party. Anyway, if you could let me know what slider set you enjoy I would appreciate it.

Later

Dazraz · 02-10-2012, 04:19 AM

When the inclusion of a proper working Injured Reserve system stands out as being my favourite new feature in Madden 12 it quickly becomes apparent how, yet again, last years game was another lame annual update.

Armor and Sword · 02-10-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by packerbacker12


	Hey Armor & Sword - I really appreciated your take on the game. It sounds like we approach Madden in the same way. I feel like the people who gripe about every little thing go in looking to find the flaws. I just don't go in that way. Anyway, I'm wondering what set of sliders you use to get games that you like. My xbox as been out of commission since July but I just picked up a nice new flat screen and am going to go pick up Madden 12 this weekend. Owned every Madden up until '11 but I think I'm going to come late to the Madden 12 party. Anyway, if you could let me know what slider set you enjoy I would appreciate it. Later

Sent you a PM.

adfletch71 · 02-10-2012, 09:43 AM

Madden12 was ok and slightly better than Madden11. Taking out suction tackles, camera angles and intros, we still have the same issues that have plagued this series since next- gen. Honestly after 7 years on next gen and countless pleading from the community, the developers should be ashamed of issues that remain in the game. Lack of true penalties especially pass interference, Challenge system, mirroring of WR/CB, OL/DL interactions, No true Immersion with presentation..etc. These things have held Madden back for years and it's time for these guys too step up and stop with the foolishness. The time with catering too the casual crowd & tournament guys are over. If u can't give us a true simulation style game, then why bring NFL blitz back? Developers, stop with the punch lines and give us what we see on Sunday's, it's more than beautiful graphics and logos. Between the lines are not true NFL football and since u are the only NFL game we can choose from, it's your duty too ensure us as consumers the best replication of the sport. It will be 8 years on consoles with Madden13, enough is enough!!!! SIMULATION or Continue too loose sales every year and u have too find other ways too make up for the looses. SIMULATION football or BUST!!!!!!

oilersfanatic · 02-10-2012, 09:59 AM

The ugly
Franchise with Bills, 5 years, no snow.

And the weather was fixed

Armor and Sword · 02-10-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oilersfanatic


	The ugly Franchise with Bills, 5 years, no snow. And the weather was fixed

Wow. That sucks.

02-10-2012, 04:19 AM	#36
Dazraz Pro OVR: 33 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kent, UK Blog Entries: 49	When the inclusion of a proper working Injured Reserve system stands out as being my favourite new feature in Madden 12 it quickly becomes apparent how, yet again, last years game was another lame annual update. PGaither84 likes this.

02-10-2012, 09:59 AM	#39
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02-09-2012, 06:58 PM	#33
rm80rams Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Jan 2012	Its pointless to even talk about Madden. We all know their game will stay mediocre and hardly improve year after year. They have so many casual gamers and fanboys that get the game regardless if it is good or bad. Unless the impossible happens and EA dramatically improves the game, hardcore gamers shouldn't even waste their time on this game. The only way that developers will be motivated to actually improve the game is if EA gives up the NFL license and 2K makes football games again because then there will be competition.

02-09-2012, 10:41 PM	#34
deacon21206 Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Sep 2011 Blog Entries: 3	Good: Defensive A.I. got better Passing game got better. Bad: That doesn't really say too much due to the fact that it was horrendous last year. The disabling of a true hit stick. Dynamic player mechanic didn't function properly. ( leading to missing wide open wrs or excessive amount of drops or missed tackles.) Overall player logic at times. (blocking, zone coverage, tackling angles.) Ugly: The lack of animations for catches, tackles, movement, OL/DL, WR/DB, an overall physicality. No real physics system. In regards to momentum, cutbacks, speed, or weight The over powered cut and chop blocks. Bad passing angles. Exploiting broken mechanics in the system was way more affective than having football knowledge or better play calling. Attributes way to often seem not to even matter.

02-10-2012, 01:42 AM	#35
packerbacker12 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Feb 2012	Hey Armor & Sword - I really appreciated your take on the game. It sounds like we approach Madden in the same way. I feel like the people who gripe about every little thing go in looking to find the flaws. I just don't go in that way. Anyway, I'm wondering what set of sliders you use to get games that you like. My xbox as been out of commission since July but I just picked up a nice new flat screen and am going to go pick up Madden 12 this weekend. Owned every Madden up until '11 but I think I'm going to come late to the Madden 12 party. Anyway, if you could let me know what slider set you enjoy I would appreciate it. Later

02-10-2012, 09:43 AM	#38
adfletch71 Banned OVR: 10 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maryland	Madden12 was ok and slightly better than Madden11. Taking out suction tackles, camera angles and intros, we still have the same issues that have plagued this series since next- gen. Honestly after 7 years on next gen and countless pleading from the community, the developers should be ashamed of issues that remain in the game. Lack of true penalties especially pass interference, Challenge system, mirroring of WR/CB, OL/DL interactions, No true Immersion with presentation..etc. These things have held Madden back for years and it's time for these guys too step up and stop with the foolishness. The time with catering too the casual crowd & tournament guys are over. If u can't give us a true simulation style game, then why bring NFL blitz back? Developers, stop with the punch lines and give us what we see on Sunday's, it's more than beautiful graphics and logos. Between the lines are not true NFL football and since u are the only NFL game we can choose from, it's your duty too ensure us as consumers the best replication of the sport. It will be 8 years on consoles with Madden13, enough is enough!!!! SIMULATION or Continue too loose sales every year and u have too find other ways too make up for the looses. SIMULATION football or BUST!!!!!!

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