UFC Undisputed 3 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeremym480

The more I play the demo the more I get pissed about the ground game. Wandy shouldn't be able to push Rampage off of him as soon as he gets him in full guard, but it happens damn near every time. With all the settings one would think that they could have something to make the ground game more realistic. Hell, they had it right in 2009 and I can't for the life of me figure out why the changed it. Don't get me wrong, I'm still excited for the game because I love the UFC. However, this game would have so much potential if the just fixed that one aspect.

I'm not seeing that on Advanced. I think people are immediately looking to transition right after the takedown instead of laying instead of waiting for Silva to transition, transition block with Rampage and then try to move into half guard.

Also the ratings are a big reason this is happening too. Rampage is 84 when it comes to takedown offense but rated a 69 when it comes to ground grapple top offense. Silva is rated a 73 on takedown defense and a 74 when it comes to ground grapple bottom defense. So according the stats Rampage should be able to takedown Silva regularly but he should have problem keeping him down. Thats looks like its happening.

I'm also willing to withhold judgment until the game comes out. I'll be pissed if I have GSP (rated 85 on ground grapple top) and I take Hardy down (rated 67 on ground grapple bottom) and he just tosses me off of him. The problem with the demo is that for the most part you have 4 fighters that are good pretty much anywhere the fight goes. So it gives off the impression that the game is unbalanced.

[thegut]

Quote: Originally Posted by linny

The ground game is horrible espicially playing two player you just sit there and spam the grappling all day. Stand up is ok until you up the difficulty and the a.i guess' every punch and becomes so much quicker then you. Good arcade game. Horrible Sim

I noticed this too. It seems on advanced difficulty and higher the AI knows what you are doing as soon as you press the button. The only thing they are not good at is seeing the clinch coming. If I don't press a punch button a lot of times the cpu will just walk until they are nose to nose with me. However if I try to throw a hook almost no matter how well I set it up the cpu is lightning fast to throw its own hook to hit me first. I don't like the stand up game at all because of this. It just seems cheap and pointless to even try to set things up. The ground and clinch game are also terrible against the cpu. If I get taken down all I have to do is spam minor transitions till I can get up and if I take them down they do the same. The clinch game is the same, and if you use Jones the cpu has never once even attempted to stop his takedown from double under hooks. It's hard to even try to throw strikes in the clinch because the cpu is spazzing out with the transition spams. I've already stopped playing the demo. Saving my money for the Show 12.

[wyrm187]

I've been playing on the hardest level because I dominted the AI in 2010 on expert - they were way too easy. It's definately more challenging now - on the ground you pretty much need to hold on to get a stand up unless you want to get passed or beat on. Unfortunately on the feet its starting to become too easy like last version . .. .if you just stand there and block and only counter punch with sways and the L1 modifier you'll wreck the AI once you get the timing down.

I realize its the computer and its hard to program that stuff but I was hoping to see more mix ups. I think when the full game is out there will be more variety but when fighting a slugger I think it will be too easy to take them out on the feet.

Someone mentioned before there were several different AI types, I think? How many if anyone knows?

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

Sway? As in dodging/moving while standing still? Block and double tap the direction. It has opened up the game for me, at least for Silva. Also, leg kicks...money.

no need to double tap, just a flick will do while blocking. I noticed if you dash (flick up or down without block) you can't really block negating it as a movement strategy while in the pocket or any striking range.

Rampage is overpowered. I'm finding it too easy to beat wandy on advanced and too hard to beat rampage. In pride wandy did knock the hell out of rampage twice, so if anything it should be the other way around.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by wyrm187

I've been playing on the hardest level because I dominted the AI in 2010 on expert - they were way too easy. It's definately more challenging now - on the ground you pretty much need to hold on to get a stand up unless you want to get passed or beat on. Unfortunately on the feet its starting to become too easy like last version . .. .if you just stand there and block and only counter punch with sways and the L1 modifier you'll wreck the AI once you get the timing down. I realize its the computer and its hard to program that stuff but I was hoping to see more mix ups. I think when the full game is out there will be more variety but when fighting a slugger I think it will be too easy to take them out on the feet. Someone mentioned before there were several different AI types, I think? How many if anyone knows?

I remember seeing anywhere from 12-14 in the Alpha.

[OSUFan_88]

It is IMPOSSIBLE to beat rampage with Wandy. I think either Rampage is overpowered or standup is too highly favored.

I kinda feel the same thing with Jon Jones and Spider.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

It is IMPOSSIBLE to beat rampage with Wandy. I think either Rampage is overpowered or standup is too highly favored. I kinda feel the same thing with Jon Jones and Spider.

Ive struggled with Wandy but not at all with Jones. Ive beat Silva several times with Jones on Advanced. Take Silva down with a double leg or clinch and take him down. I've dominated rounds with Jones.

[CX1329]

I've been able to beat Rampage on Advanced by using Muay Thai fundamentals. It's impressive that I can use teeps just like I do in real life. On the other hand, when I'm controlling Rampage, I don't have to do much more than throw bombs all day, so I'd argue that there's indeed a lack of balance.