UFC Undisputed 3 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[mgoblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I love NBA2k12. Play it a ton but its not even close to a simulation at default. Its a great simulation after slider and roster tweaks. Those same friends I mentioned before...love NBA 2k12 with no slider tweaks. They hate playing on my system because I have the sliders tweaked and you cant throw oops when ever you want. You actually have to play the game realistically and they hate it. Now these are also guys who are big NBA fans and who own Wizards season tickets. If UFC3 was sim on default, the masses would complain constantly. To be truly sim, you would have to have some CPU controlled fighters who do nothing but lay and pray, cage clinch and you would have to significantly lower the strike accuracy. You are asking fans to enjoy a game where fighters miss strikes and spend the majority of the time on the ground (the part of MMA most casual fans hate).

Yep...it's like Madden. I set it up to be realistic, my GF's niece loves running up the score on the CPU.

Pure simulation sports games won't sell...that's why devs try and give us the ability to change it, but it'll never be pure sim.

[2k10Fonzarelli]

Great stuff so far. Sim setting is what this game has required for ages. Love Playing Sim on Pride rules as the AI is a relatively fair challenge(aside from auto reversals ect).

Since they`ve done away with the shine, how do you defend takedowns after they`ve been initiated? I've had success doing the shine, holding away from the takedown and doing nothing.

So what determines a successful takedown if you miss the counter from standing?

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2k10Fonzarelli

Great stuff so far. Sim setting is what this game has required for ages. Love Playing Sim on Pride rules as the AI is a relatively fair challenge(aside from auto reversals ect). Since they`ve done away with the shine, how do you defend takedowns after they`ve been initiated? I've had success doing the shine, holding away from the takedown and doing nothing. So what determines a successful takedown if you miss the counter from standing?

The shine is still in for takedowns. To defend takedowns you move the left stick away from the takedown.

[DaveDQ]

I did a test on the highest difficulty with CPU vs CPU, Jones vs Silva...UFC.

I felt they were very aggressive. Jones threw 27 punches, 19 Kicks and went for 5 takedowns. Silva threw 43 punches, 14 kicks and had 0 takedown attempts. Jones had 23 transition attempts, Silva had 6.

Jones stamina was at 84%, Silva at 74%.

For one round of fighting, 74% energy is really low. I even think 84% is pushing it, but they fought very aggressively.

[goh]

Quote: Originally Posted by seasprite

Perhaps you should wait until you actually have played the demo or game before you give your "impression". There have been a good amount of changes from 10 to this year (in the demo anyways).

If you don't like something about a game,the sequel comes and everyone says it's still a problem then chances are it's a problem. I'm questioning if I should even bother. (Again this goes back to MS not understanding the point of a demo and if I were a publisher I'd be on them about it.) If it's still a walking forward slugfest just with less knockouts it's still not a good MMA game. You don't even have to play it to be displeased with something like Wandy not having Sandstorm. There's not even a reasonable excuse for that,it's been in at least SIX other games. Can't get AC/DC or Led Zeppelin,that's fine,they're hard to get and expensive even if they do agree but Darude? C'mon.

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

As popular as MMA is, the hardcore fans are still a small minority. Most people want the rock em sock em robots version of this game. This is probably the most frustrating thing for most OSers to understand.

I think that's why they could still get away with it. There's still enough people that'll buy it just because it says UFC on the cover.

[Jukeman]

If Im not mistaken but wasnt UFC 2010 str8 up arcade/rock em sock em compared to UFC 09?

We've already seen how the fans reacted to that...


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[Phobia]

My stance on this whole "hardcore" vs "Masses" thing is like this.

1) Suits need to stay out of the design process! Either a development team hits a home run with trying something new OR they fail and are forced to look for new jobs. Either way, it should come down strictly to the people designing the game to create it how THEY want, not how some corporate executive "THINKS" it should be.

2) People like simulation, to think other wise is to sweep several strong franchises under the rug and ignore all the awards and recognition they have received BECAUSE they are more realistic. The Show and NBA2k are great examples. Games that are more arcade based don't do as well and don't get critical praise as often. People want what they see on TV.

3) I personally think you make a sport title as realistic as possible and it will sell off the charts. Why does NFL2k5 have a cult following after 8 years? Why is The Show franchise the all time sport game to beat? Why has any sport game in creation strive to have all the realistic teams, animations, players, etc etc. Yet suits sell the game short by saying games need to be "arcade" to a degree to appeal to the "masses", WHY create all this amazing realism yet the gameplay suffers???

At some point EA is going to get it and go for pure realism. I think they are already realizing this by how they are trying to reshape the football franchises and the current direction NHL and FIFA are in.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jukeman

If Im not mistaken but wasnt UFC 2010 str8 up arcade/rock em sock em compared to UFC 09? We've already seen how the fans reacted to that... Sent from my HumancentiPad using Tapatalk

Didnt 2010 sell close to a million copies?