No Madden NFL 13 Super Bowl Halftime Blog

[dfos81]

Streamline the Code lol. Whatever,
Heres an interesting article, may shed some light, while on the subject of not enough memory.

read more: http://techland.time.com/2011/03/30/...h-for-blu-ray/

"When comparing the PlayStation 3 vs. the Xbox, one thing developers talk about is the difference in space with the consoles’ disc formats. The DVD format’s a bit long in the tooth, and the usable space on the average Xbox 360 dual-layer disc usually tops out at around 6.8 GB out of 7.95 GB."

"Another way to look at this issue is to watch where game engine technology might be heading. If that Epic Games’ Samaritan demo is any indication, the lighting, textures and other graphical considerations alone will take up massive amounts of space, never mind the AI, player input and network coding that it takes to make a game work. That demo video itself was around a whopping 4 GB, so imagine a whole game built in that Unreal Engine technology. If they’re going to stay competitive, Microsoft’s going to have to figure out how to make more storage available for both gamers and developers. After all, does anybody want to do the disc-swapping dance again for Mass Effect 3?"


Imo, sounds like the hardware platform microsoft creates needs to be upgraded before we will see any major improvements in Madden.

Who said platform is not the issue? Microsoft XBOX 8gb dvd(if that) VS PS3 Blu-Ray disc 50gb, COME ON MAN!

[Broncos86]

That has nothing to do with memory. That's disc storage, not RAM. The Xbox 360 actually has a better RAM situation than the PS3. But we've been through this multiple times on this board. It's old news.

[dfos81]

Quote: Originally Posted by Broncos86

That has nothing to do with memory. That's disc storage, not RAM. The Xbox 360 actually has a better RAM situation than the PS3. But we've been through this multiple times on this board. It's old news.

When they claim to run out of space for something, thats when i see it as an issue. A single Blu-Ray disc can probably store multiple Maddens and still not be capped on storage room, ie. Mass Effect 2.

[TreyIM2]

Quote: Originally Posted by dfos81

When they claim to run out of space for something, thats when i see it as an issue. A single Blu-Ray disc can probably store multiple Maddens and still not be capped on storage room, ie. Mass Effect 2.

Right. U need disc space no matter what to make a larger game. If Madden had more to play with ala the PS3, don't u think there'd be more they can do with the game, ppl? A larger playground = more ground to play on, right? But I digress. No need to harp on it...

[jyoung]

If disc space is such a limitation for Madden, then they should ship the game on two discs.

It's not uncommon for sports games, as both Forza 3 and Forza 4 came on two discs.

There really is no excuse for Madden to blame "lack of space."

[dfos81]

Quote: Originally Posted by TreyIM2

Right. U need disc space no matter what to make a larger game. If Madden had more to play with ala the PS3, don't u think there'd be more they can do with the game, ppl? A larger playground = more ground to play on, right? But I digress. No need to harp on it...

I concur,
Sony produced a game were you can have 128 vs 128 battling it out online! Its called MAG.
If Sony can do this on a Blu-Ray disc, how come EA can't even give us 7 on 7 online?
Like Weeman said, EA give us two discs if 1 isn't enough.
Maybe EA knows they will make apx. the same amount by squeezing a half done game into 1 disc

[CRMosier_LM]

2 discs would not work well for a sports title. That would mean having all audio, visual, game code, playbooks, statistics, rendering, settings etc on both discs. The only thing you could vary between discs would be game modes which most don't take up enough space to really mention outside of franchise modes.

[Broncos86]

Certain games, like Forza 3, come with multiple discs. You then install the race tracks to the hard drive. But you can't count on that, which is why that aspect is optional for Forza 3. Madden's dev team cannot count on specific HDD space being available. Thus, just one disc.

On the flip side, the PS3 splits the RAM. While both systems offer 512MB of total RAM, the PS3's RAM is dedicated and split. 256MB for system, 256MB for video. The 360's is shared. Meaning if the system only need 100MB, that leaves 412MB of RAM for video. To contrast, the PS3 is limited to 256MB of RAM for video regardless.

THIS is the important aspect. Everything you see during a game is loaded into RAM. So even though the PS3 can offer more disc space, the system cannot load as much as the 360 into RAM. Less system RAM means lower quality textures.