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Old 12-31-2011, 06:55 PM   #217
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Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

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Anyway where in any article does it say that MLB 12 has the same presentation for playoffs as previous years?


Rain not being seen enough was a bug.

Now rain outs and double headers, I've said this in another thread. We aren't that crazy about them in a video game. Cost vs. benefit analysis of development time and resources just doesn't add up. So we aren't going to do it. Unless one of our designers comes up with a compelling and innovative way to do it. Until then rain outs and double headers aren't happening.
It does not say anywhere that it is the same for playoffs, but there should be no assumption that it is different either. I have seen members mention in that forum for years and it does not get touched, so I was assuming the worst. Sorry.

In ways I understand rain outs and double headers not being in, and in ways I don't. In reality I guess that is something nice to have, but not essential.

I think us franchise users become irritated when we hear that "franchise will get love next year, etc." When in reality it doesn't and we hear the same thing the following year. Obviously, 12 will have improvements over 11, but will they be significant? I guess just don't get our hopes up each year to only be shattered.

Franchise does not need a complete overhaul, it is already solid. It just needs improvement. Such as; having A.I. teams move players up or down their farm system based on PERFORMANCE and not INJURY. That would seem like a major improvement. As well as, a franchise that does not have numerous bugs. Oh well, I will hope for the best...
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:03 PM   #218
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Have you guys considered doing what NBA 2k12 did and have a dynamic broadcast angle that was different for each stadium in the future? That way playing at each stadium will help the game feel fresh and add more of that realistic tv feel.

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Old 12-31-2011, 07:10 PM   #219
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Have you guys considered doing what NBA 2k12 did and have a dynamic broadcast angle that was different for each stadium in the future? That way playing at each stadium will help the game feel fresh and add more of that realistic tv feel.
I don't know about the dynamic part, but each stadium definitely had its own BTP cameras last year in BOTH games:

http://kotaku.com/5780798/baseball-r...eras/gallery/1
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:13 PM   #220
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It's amazing what some consider deal breakers, but hey, to each their own.

I could care less about accessories. Sure it only adds to the game to have more options, but it still plays a damn good game of baseball.

Happy new year though. I'm sure January will be a busy and exciting month for the SCEA guys.
unfortunately thats what this site has become. You really see so much complaining from people who demand perfection. Not just with this game but other games as well, nothing is ever good enough for so many people on here (not everybody).

It's amazing the guys who work on the games even want to come on here, they want the most realistic game they can make but also have to deal with the business side of things when it comes to contracts, space limitations, time, and appealing to as many people as possible.

And then people want to get on them for putting the title of their game on the scorebar, wow.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:15 PM   #221
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I don't know about the dynamic part, but each stadium definitely had its own BTP cameras last year in BOTH games:

http://kotaku.com/5780798/baseball-r...eras/gallery/1
didn't know, i took last year off because i still had half of my season to play in MLB 10. But this year the game looks too good and i need an update.
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Yes they can change the overall layout of it. Either making it a box like ESPN or a bar like most of the other networks. I'm just saying that there isn't much variation when it comes to this type of thing. As I said, they've already had 7 previous versions of these same components(outs, count, bases, inning, score, teams). Of course they can go to the box but I think that will take up too much space and you won't be able to see one section of the stadium when hitting. As opposed to the bar where only the top is blocked. I think the bar is better IMO.
After the first inning of the first game I play, I never even think about anything like what the box looks like where the score is. If that type of stuff is that important, you are not looking at the real issues. Hit variery, outfielder ability, pitcher's release and break, stuff that blurs the line between game and simulation.

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The "focus groups" I'm referring to are the 5 different focus test we had in NYC, Chicago, LA, and two other cities with hundreds of people. Not the extremely small community day events we have twice a year in SD at the studio.

The information we get from them is a stark and I mean stark contrast to the opinions we get from OS. I won't get into it because I don't have that kind of time, but your mind would be blown if you ever sat in on one of these focus groups.


Two completely different demographics and one of the loudest gripes we heard was the game is to hard and I don't know what I'm doing. Putting the game on rookie isn't enough, it was enough for MLB 09, 10, or 11. So we made a conscious decision to try and give the end user as much information as possible to help them succeed at the game. Or at the very least understand why the aren't doing so well.


Now onto your notion that I singled you out and dismissed the request to have an option here's the deal. I told you the truth, we aren't going to change it this year, we aren't going to have it as an option for it this year. We are in the polish and bug fixing stage of development. Every year we cater to this crowd more than any other. Just look at the features that have been released already or the things we change each year based on the community days.

Every time we change or add something late in the cycle it affects multiple groups on our development team programmers, artists and producers are all affected with these 2am changes we make every year. 90% of the time everyone is happy to do them, but there is a limit. Whenever you change or add something into code bugs pop up and that list keeps growing and growing. So at some point we have to close the doors on additions and work on getting everything else working properly.

We constantly add or change things based on what people want from this site. I assumed most would understand that we can't say yes to every request. We are always willing to change things and make concessions when we can, however we are not burger king.
That is exactly why I would love to see Rookie mode have all the extra stuff on 'auto', and as you move up the difficulty levels, more and more options are turned to 'manual'. Then, you can have a 'arcade' and 'simulation' style too. Then, you can have your outfielders run around like superman, one button pitching, swing at everything, and your ace pitch like an ace 35 times per year, on 'arcade' mode. Have 'arcade' mode be the default, to apease the masses. Then, we 'simulation' players, can do everything manual. Yes, the game is very hard! Not the meat and potatos of it, but all the little things make it hard. I would not expect a casual gamer, the bulk of the revenue, to know to work the count to 2-1, sit on a fastball, try to put it on the ground, run on movement, swing late, advance the runner from 1st to 3rd, watch the outfielder's route to the ball, etc: to think of all of that within 2 seconds.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:57 PM   #223
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While I am also on the same boat, and would have liked to have options to disable all the on-screen-displays, you guys should remember that it's only natural that the screen looks a lot more cluttered in a 4X4 screenshot. I'm sure it there will be plenty of open space when the game is actually on your 20 inch, 30 inch, or 50 inch television set.
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Econoodle, quit calling him "Russie." thanks
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