UFC Undisputed 3 Video - How to Unlock Alistair Overeem

[jeremym480]

If I was so disgusted by the simple click of a Facebook page, then I certainly wouldn't want to "advertise" (if you even want to call it that) for the company that was selling the product; much less support them by purchasing it.

I guess some people are a little looser with their principals than me. I wouldn't go so far as to call the hypocrites, nah yeah I would. Stand your ground if you really believe in something. Go out there and make a difference with your wallet and maybe you won't have to "like" a Facebook page for the next iteration. All I can say is good luck with that.

[st67]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I'm not ignoring the principle. What I'm saying is if you are such a principled person and this is such a significant issue, I expect that you won't purchase the game or if you do, I expect that you won't "like" the page so you can get Overeem. Thanks.

Nice to know we get condescending replies from red names.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by st67

Nice to know we get condescending replies from red names.

I respond in kind. Take the red off of my name and I would still give you the same response. I've been here over a decade and the tone of my posts is always the same whether I was an admin or not..

If you want to disagree with me fine..lets have a debate. If you want to give smartass responses, I'll respond with one too. As long as neither of us cross the line and violate the TOS, I have no issue with it.

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Again, lets talk about the matter at hand. They aren't asking you to like 8 pages. They are asking you to like 1. If they asked you to do more than that I could understand the complaint. I completely understand and agree with the complaints about the Gamestop fighters. But for Overeem, they are asking you like 1 page...thats it. If you are apprehensive about the future....dont do it now. Its the same thing I say about DLC. People complained about DLC with the WWE series but still purchased it. No matter what you say or how much you complain, if THQ is making hundreds of thousands from DLC and gets millions of likes because of Overeem....they are going to do it every year. Also your financial analysis of the marketing doesn't work at all. I don't think ANYONE would argue that the value of liking a page and having it appear on your timeline once is worth 5 dollars (or even 1 dollar) per person. Also I seriously doubt that we will see less advertising for this game because of social media. If anything I've seen more videos, Q&As, interviews and web trailers than any previous version. I can also guarantee that we will see as many TV commercials as we have for THQ's other fighting game, WWE 12. Anyway, I'll agree to disagree. Its just a huge pet peeve of mine to hear people say "Im so enraged the THQ would make me like a FB page but I'm still gonna do it"

My 'suggestions' or examples weren't necessarily meant to be taken that literally. In fact, would I would rather do is discuss what we as consumers should find to be permissible.

As I said I'll most likely do the facebook thing to get overeem in the game so that I can beat him sensless

But where could/should the line be drawn? That's really at the heart of the issue. I'm not sure, and I think it's clear that nobody else is either. I agree that this is not a big deal for UFC3, but I do somehow still think it's slightly 'wrong' for lack of a better word.

So what I'm wondering is what it will take for me personally and all of you to reject doing something 'extra' to unlock in-game content - AND what is the extent companies will go in the near future and beyond in terms of things like this...

Did they feel it necessary to have the customer engage in this social media to 'Justify' the inclusion of overeem free of charge? In other words, having us do this is worth something to them. At the same time, they have removed fighters from the game too, which is worth mentioning.

What's lost in this imo is that it's so easy to click like on FB, but we are all effectively saying to everyone on our friends like 'hey I like UFC 3' ... which isn't very different than verbally telling them in person.

Above, I'm not sure, but I think someone scoffed at the notion that this is advertising, but it totally is. Didn't the last game sell 2million copies?
If that's the case - let's say 1/2 do the 'like' thing, and let's be modest and say they all have 200 friends on FB. Weed out the people that miss it on their list, ignore it or whatever, we're still talking about an insane number of people who see the 'likes' - To me that is essentially a massive amount of free advertising no?

So again, right NOW it's not a big deal YET, but it is getting a bit personal and taking us closer and closer to "the line"....wherever that might be... Maybe they will never demand more than that in future titles, but maybe they will --- I don't know because I'm not in marketing and really don't know if these companies even discuss this type of thing right now.

I can think of something I wouldn't do as an example, I wouldn't send a mass text to everyone on my address book saying 'check out UFC 3' even if it was for 15 fighters and that would cause me to potentially not buy the game at all out of disgust. So I'm not sure about you guys - but is it even possible to agree on what 'the line' is not to be crossed? Philosophically it's extremely difficult to differentiate the 2 which makes it even harder - so that's why I think it's worth thinking about and having some discussion about it. When is it TOO intrusive?

(sorry for the novella

[aholbert32]

LOL. I'll take this one section by section:

I think the FB thing is right at the line. If THQ asked me to email friends or even tweet something to get a fighter, I probably would balk at it. The reason why I have no problem with this is because it takes one button click. Overeem will probably be paid DLC for people who refuse to do the FB thing. So for me its a choice of pay for DLC or do this and get it for free.

I disagree that "liking" UFC3 is the same or similar to telling each one of my 300 FB friends that I like the game. Ive been on FB for years and I've can't remember ever even noticing one of my friends likes. I think the large majority of people don't even pay attention to that stuff.

The last game sold a little under a million. I don't think anyone would argue that its not free advertising. What I would argue is that it isn't valuable free advertising. For example, I'm a UFC fan. So if I see a friend of mine liked UFC3 I'm likely to check out the FB page. But more likely than not, if I'm a UFC fan I already know about the game so its useless advertising to me.

[p_rushing]

I would rather them do the FB thing than the Gamestop deal and force me to shop there if I want those fighters.

[st67]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

If you want to disagree with me fine..lets have a debate. If you want to give smartass responses, I'll respond with one too. As long as neither of us cross the line and violate the TOS, I have no issue with it.

None of my replies were smarts replies - you're the one who decided not to bother listening to what another poster was saying, and then act snide about it.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by st67

None of my replies were smarts replies - you're the one who decided not to bother listening to what another poster was saying, and then act snide about it.

I think you need to let this go. If you want to talk about your argument, thats fine. But I'm not gonna have a pissing contest with you. Lets move on for your sake.