NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

[Gosens6]

After spending some extensive time with the patch, I honestly cannot believe the placebo affect that was in place on this message board.

Even some of you people who were praising this patch as the second coming are starting to tone down your stances and see this game as still being somewhat flawed. I don't know what it is, but I cannot notice anything different in this patch from the game pre-patch.

You guys got the patch, and wanted it to be so great and make the game a 10/10 that you started seeing things you wanted to see to make it better.

In reality, this game has gone the way of EA Sports Football titles for me, I will no longer be purchasing them. It pains me to say as much, because I absolutely love basketball, and iv'e been a faithful 2K buyer since NBA 2K on the dreamcast.

Enough is enough though. The ridiculous CPU comeback A.I. People saying it was possible to get by defenders with faster players, when in reality, the CPU AI still mirrors your moves step for step. Constantly getting blocked by smaller players inside is still there. Not being able to run fast breaks because no matter who you pass it to the CPU gets a hand on the ball.

The CPU AI constant erratic movement on offense, doing nothing but trying to muscle their way inside the paint, the superhero comeback and contested shots. It's all still there.

Let's not talk about star big men never touching the ball, or when they do get the ball, never using their post moves. Just running around like idiots and passing the ball to some scrub, who WILL light your team up. Do superstars even matter in this game? Or is it back to the days of 2K11 where no matter how old or how much your skills have diminished, if you have a good 3 point shot, you'll score 26 a game and lead your team. Nevermind Dwight Howard for the Magic, you better watch out for Q-Rich, Hedo Turkoglu or some other low rated guy dropping 30 on you while D12 sits back with 8 points and a bunch of rebounds. Pathetic

How anyone could come on here and say those issues have genuinely been fixed is beyond me. Especially when myself and many others have continued to point them out still being there. I'm glad some of the rest of you are finally seeing it too.

This is a good game, and I want it to be great, but there are WAY too many glaring issues that keeps this game from staying in my Xbox for a long period of time.

[RedmanR]

Quote: Originally Posted by OGKing

- Because of the passes, pick and roll is a bit better. That's if the person setting the pick actually rolls.

It's NOT if the person setting the pick actually rolls, it's if you're actually calling the pick & roll or pick & pop. I usually press LB/L1 to call the pick, press LB/L1 again whenever I want roll man to roll. If you press and hold LB/L1 that sets up the pick & pop.

I have no problem setting-up isolation plays with anyone then call pick plays. They're not automatic but if executed right can be very effective for sure.

Quote: Originally Posted by DW3

Not to bash anyone who enjoys it, I just feel like this was 3 steps forward, and 4 steps back this year. I have learned my lesson though thats for sure. I will never buy anymore of these sports games on release day anymore. The fact that its December and the game is still being worked on its laughable. I am aware of the crunched development cycle these guys are under, but spending 65 bucks for a game on release day then waiting 2 months before its patched is crazy.

I feel you man. I usually wait until all the smoke clears myself but I ventured out, picked up 2K12 on release day without any lines or hassles. I couldn't believe we stood around this long waiting for a gameplay patch myself and. . . to top it all off, the most important issues 2K claims they took into account from here. . . OS da Spot needed to be addressed were not.

I like the subtle issues that were address but clearly there is a whole lot more to be desired here.

Quote: Originally Posted by cjonesfan921

Thanks, Going to give it a go in a few, how up to date are the new rosters? I would have to sign up for Gold for a month just to get them, or should I wait?

The rosters are Live In rosters and will load-up every time you power-up your game. There should be a new update available already or feel free to check every 24hrs. or follow Ronnie on twitter.

No need to go Gold just to download rosters, hell. . . you can get custom 2kshare rosters for free. Just create an XBox Live account(Silver).

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

After spending some extensive time with the patch, I honestly cannot believe the placebo affect that was in place on this message board. Even some of you people who were praising this patch as the second coming are starting to tone down your stances and see this game as still being somewhat flawed. I don't know what it is, but I cannot notice anything different in this patch from the game pre-patch. You guys got the patch, and wanted it to be so great and make the game a 10/10 that you started seeing things you wanted to see to make it better. In reality, this game has gone the way of EA Sports Football titles for me, I will no longer be purchasing them. It pains me to say as much, because I absolutely love basketball, and iv'e been a faithful 2K buyer since NBA 2K on the dreamcast. Enough is enough though. The ridiculous CPU comeback A.I. People saying it was possible to get by defenders with faster players, when in reality, the CPU AI still mirrors your moves step for step. Constantly getting blocked by smaller players inside is still there. Not being able to run fast breaks because no matter who you pass it to the CPU gets a hand on the ball. The CPU AI constant erratic movement on offense, doing nothing but trying to muscle their way inside the paint, the superhero comeback and contested shots. It's all still there. Let's not talk about star big men never touching the ball, or when they do get the ball, never using their post moves. Just running around like idiots and passing the ball to some scrub, who WILL light your team up. Do superstars even matter in this game? Or is it back to the days of 2K11 where no matter how old or how much your skills have diminished, if you have a good 3 point shot, you'll score 26 a game and lead your team. Nevermind Dwight Howard for the Magic, you better watch out for Q-Rich, Hedo Turkoglu or some other low rated guy dropping 30 on you while D12 sits back with 8 points and a bunch of rebounds. Pathetic How anyone could come on here and say those issues have genuinely been fixed is beyond me. Especially when myself and many others have continued to point them out still being there. I'm glad some of the rest of you are finally seeing it too. This is a good game, and I want it to be great, but there are WAY too many glaring issues that keeps this game from staying in my Xbox for a long period of time.

I feel what you are saying but for me this patch has made the game better and thats because im a online player. That is the only reason I have gave props for this patch. I havent even played a game offline against the cpu yet.

There are still problems like the steal spam online but the patch has made online playable. Its not so sluggish anymore. You can play onball d now, you cant hit every three, you can time the release on shots and free throws , etc.

I just dont see some of the problems you see because im not playing against the cpu. Although some of these cheesers can make me just as frustrated.

So what I have given this patch credit for is not a placebo effect. Its just simply im basing my impressions off a different aspect of the game

[hammerboy09]

Can somebody play bulls vs heat first game and see does it still lags please??

[hammerboy09]

In the offline association

[OGKing]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

I feel what you are saying but for me this patch has made the game better and thats because im a online player. That is the only reason I have gave props for this patch. I havent even played a game offline against the cpu yet. There are still problems like the steal spam online but the patch has made online playable. Its not so sluggish anymore. You can play onball d now, you cant hit every three, you can time the release on shots and free throws , etc. I just dont see some of the problems you see because im not playing against the cpu. Although some of these cheesers can make me just as frustrated. So what I have given this patch credit for is not a placebo effect. Its just simply im basing my impressions off a different aspect of the game

This patch def made online a way better game.

[Glenn33]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

After spending some extensive time with the patch, I honestly cannot believe the placebo affect that was in place on this message board. ... Let's not talk about star big men never touching the ball, or when they do get the ball, never using their post moves. Just running around like idiots and passing the ball to some scrub, who WILL light your team up. Do superstars even matter in this game? Or is it back to the days of 2K11 where no matter how old or how much your skills have diminished, if you have a good 3 point shot, you'll score 26 a game and lead your team. Nevermind Dwight Howard for the Magic, you better watch out for Q-Rich, Hedo Turkoglu or some other low rated guy dropping 30 on you while D12 sits back with 8 points and a bunch of rebounds. Pathetic How anyone could come on here and say those issues have genuinely been fixed is beyond me. Especially when myself and many others have continued to point them out still being there. I'm glad some of the rest of you are finally seeing it too.

I wish I knew that beforehand - because the game I played [post patch] Howard lit me up for like 25/15 and had the game winning shot.

It's not placebo. There was a patch [fact] and gameplay has been altered[fact]. Now the changes may not be up to your expectations or wishes - but me personally I think the game has changed for the better. It may not be as much as needed - but it's definitely better.

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

I feel what you are saying but for me this patch has made the game better and thats because im a online player. That is the only reason I have gave props for this patch. I havent even played a game offline against the cpu yet. There are still problems like the steal spam online but the patch has made online playable. Its not so sluggish anymore. You can play onball d now, you cant hit every three, you can time the release on shots and free throws , etc. I just dont see some of the problems you see because im not playing against the cpu. Although some of these cheesers can make me just as frustrated. So what I have given this patch credit for is not a placebo effect. Its just simply im basing my impressions off a different aspect of the game

Noted and well respected point, I should have stated that I was talking about offline only.