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Old 12-06-2011, 10:08 AM   #177
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Well when I pitched my genius TSBN network idea to them that's the answer I was given so I guess there was some failure to communicate

I want to be wrong though because that tired and dull PS2 era broadcast format needs to go and it's time for some real broadcast network integration
I think what he meant was that you cannot parody another sports programming network. That doesn't mean "You have to remain stale," or whatever conjecture it is you're coming up with based on their response.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:47 AM   #178
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honestly, its more of an animation ordeal with these models..****nning animations in paticular. The legs move 100mph' and players have no weight, acceleration, agility or top end speed. Foot plants, change of directions, and acceleration to the ball on defense is lacking imo. Can this be fixed or am I alone on this one
Well, animations and models are two different things, but to address your issue...

Do you have some video examples? I ask because in fact the running animations do not have legs moving at 100 mph, acceleration is applied, there are top speeds, and the are very specific foot plant/change of direction animations. So, I'm a bit confused. Remember, our animations are created via Motion Capture which entails a real human athlete bound by real world physics actually doing all the motions you see as animations in the game. So, if you could provide a video example of a specific issue, we may be able to improve the look and feel of the locomotion animation sequences.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:12 PM   #179
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Well, animations and models are two different things, but to address your issue...

Do you have some video examples? I ask because in fact the running animations do not have legs moving at 100 mph, acceleration is applied, there are top speeds, and the are very specific foot plant/change of direction animations. So, I'm a bit confused. Remember, our animations are created via Motion Capture which entails a real human athlete bound by real world physics actually doing all the motions you see as animations in the game. So, if you could provide a video example of a specific issue, we may be able to improve the look and feel of the locomotion animation sequences.

i don't have video proof for this one....

.....I notice 2-3/game that CPU outfielders will casually jog to a deep fly-balls and make an easy catch (FENWAY)...now...i watch about 75 games at Fenway in real life....and the OF's never make those casual jogs back to what is called the *triangle* at fenway---but they will in the video game.

have you seen this?...if u have any free time at home--fire up a game at fenway & look for some of these nonchalant strides the CPU outfielders will make.

maybe adding more *sense of urgancy* to some of the OF'ers is what I'm getting at

thanks for your time
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i don't have video proof for this one....

.....I notice 2-3/game that CPU outfielders will casually jog to a deep fly-balls and make an easy catch (FENWAY)...now...i watch about 75 games at Fenway in real life....and the OF's never make those casual jogs back to what is called the *triangle* at fenway---but they will in the video game.

have you seen this?...if u have any free time at home--fire up a game at fenway & look for some of these nonchalant strides the CPU outfielders will make.

maybe adding more *sense of urgancy* to some of the OF'ers is what I'm getting at

thanks for your time

I have to agree about the outfielders not showing a sense of urgancy.

I also see the nonchalant strides often. I even see it sometimes when a runner is tagging up at third base.

I am sure most of you have seen this happen with a runner on third base less then 2 outs and the batter hits a fly ball to the outfield and the fielder nonchalant strides to the ball even though the runner on third is about to tag up and come home. And because of this nonchalant strides the runner almost always is safe at home plate.

Its kills me every time I see that.

I found a video that kind of show what I am talking about.

Goto 12:20 in the video and with a runner on third base watch the batter hit a fly ball to the outfielder and you can see how the outfilders has no sense of urgancy. And as you can see the runner was easily safe at home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsD7M8B50H8

At 2:40 in this video you can also see the outfielder do the nonchalant stride while a runner was going to tag up from third.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN14O...feature=relmfu

Wish I had better videos to show you but this should give you a good idea of what I mean.

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Old 12-06-2011, 12:36 PM   #181
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I also hate those outfielder catching animations where they almost run past the fly balls and then reach across there body to make the catch.

It looks very awkward.

I hope this animation will be removed.
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I think what he meant was that you cannot parody another sports programming network.
That's quite possible and I hope that's the case

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That doesn't mean "You have to remain stale," or whatever conjecture it is you're coming up with based on their response.
I got a heavy impression that they don't see any problem with there current broadcast format and are going with the "If it ain't broken don't fix it" mindset.

If I'm wrong and they fixed it I will be ecstatic
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That's quite possible and I hope that's the case



I got a heavy impression that they don't see any problem with there current broadcast format and are going with the "If it ain't broken don't fix it" mindset.

If I'm wrong and they fixed it I will be ecstatic
Well I sure hope you are wrong then
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:49 PM   #184
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Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots

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I got a heavy impression that they don't see any problem with there current broadcast format and are going with the "If it ain't broken don't fix it" mindset.

If I'm wrong and they fixed it I will be ecstatic
That is not the mindset. You have to remember there are projects the can't be done in one cycle. Just because you do not see it premiere in the next version does not necessarily mean they are not doing anything with a particular element of the game.

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