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Old 09-21-2011, 01:56 PM   #953
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Albert I understand your points on 2K11. I concur with that example 100%. The Mavs in the demo don't have anyone who is explosive off the dribble so the demo is not a great indicator of the speed differences available in the final.

They made it this year to that depending on your skill level your crosses are faster/ better. Playing with Crawford or Rose is much different and much more explosive than playing Kidd / Dirk / Chandler.

From what your saying though I have no idea if that is close enough for you to find the game enjoyable.

Now to your other point of real life. There are only certain times ( when the ball is in your hands) that you can change direction and speed in real basketball. When the ball has left your hands your stuck in an animation if you will.

Game companies handle this one of two ways. They cheat like elite did last year and allow you to move and change direction when you shouldn't to give you the feeling of instant control. The problem is once you cheat in on area you have to continue to cheat to keep the game balanced.

IE they had to make shot blocks where the defender doesn't bend his legs.. And on and on it goes until your no longer playing a game based on reality. BUT it sure feels great as your crossing over 7 ways to Sunday...

In real basketball that delay is not known to those who are watching the game you just see a player pull up or cross. But if you think about it you know that decision was made a second or part of a second or two before that.

2k tries to make control decision based on what would a real player be able to do. While still trying to give you as much control as possible while STILL giving you a game that looks like actual basketball movement.

Taking all of that into consideration I would rather have game based on real movement and have it look like basketball players making basketball moves.

This is why I like to compare games to other games when trying to decipher what is good or what can a company do better. Because no game will compare to the "game" we think should be made.

But when you compare the benefits and the issues with 2k to any other game available including that games limitations 2k stands alone.

People are excited I think because they understand that compared to what has been available in the past 2k12 gets you there more than any other game previously made.

If you disagree I would love to see which game you feel handles control , look and implementation based on real basketball better.
Awesome explanation Czar. BTW, how far back is this build?
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:57 PM   #954
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Don't u think the ball looks kinda wierd?
everything else is great
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The song on the demo is sick. Hopefully most of the songs are like that. Either that or I will disable 75% of the songs like last year haha.
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Awesome explanation Czar. BTW, how far back is this build?
I don't know the exact specs but it doesn't feel close to the final to me. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same of similar to the gamescon build. That is just my opinon tho. Nothing offical on what build. I see some stuff happen that I know was addressed awhile ago tho.

Final was smoother to me and more responsive especially on defense. This build feels a tad sluggish to me.
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Dudes who say not much has changed in 2K12 are either not being entirely honest, or don't know the sport of basketball enough to appreciate all the changes, such as the brand new collision system. Is it possible not to be too impressed by the demo, or even dislike it? Absolutely! Especially considering just how amazing 2K11 was. I don't think anybody can get away with claiming 2K12 didn't change much, though. I played this game all day yesterday, and I'm still noticing new or improved things.
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Old 09-21-2011, 02:19 PM   #958
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The gameplay in that demo is off the charts. Definitely an improvement from 2k11. The game is so smooth. And the controls are nice.

Can't wait to play with the old school teams like the Showtime Lakers and the Magic. I'm officially excited. Wow!!!!
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I don't know the exact specs but it doesn't feel close to the final to me. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same of similar to the gamescon build. That is just my opinon tho. Nothing offical on what build. I see some stuff happen that I know was addressed awhile ago tho.

Final was smoother to me and more responsive especially on defense. This build feels a tad sluggish to me.
Really? I played about 5 games last night and it felt responsive and smooth compared to 2k11. So gameplay is better? That's crazy. Great news.
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