NBA 2K12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[mkharsh33]

Played it a bit this morning... My simple conclusion: they made a GREAT game (2k11) even better. BUT, I'm not blown away.

I honestly LOVE 2k11 - so, I'm not sure if I'll jump right up and purchase 2k12 because it felt like I was playing a bit more refined / touched up version of 2k11.

good stuff, but felt like more of the same with a number of enhancements. this is totally a positive...

if you loved 2k11, you'll like 2k12 even more. but the question is this: is it *really* worth running out the door on release day? in my opinion it's not...

i'm a classic nba guy - i really don't enjoy today's NBA at all. so i have to ask myself if it's worth grabbing 2k12 when i have a TON of GREAT classic rosters for 2k11... this i'm not sure about.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cynical

I love the demo, but it seems like a somewhat perfectly patched 2k11. The demo felt like a better 2k11. 2k12 feels likeit will be a $60 gameplay tweek and and roster update.

Eventually these games will peak at a certain point. It's crazy that this is a "negative" because you can only portray the sport of basketball so many ways.

No one ever goes on a court then complains that basketball... feels like... basketball...

[yungsta404]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cynical

I love the demo, but it seems like a somewhat perfectly patched 2k11. I only played a few times before work so i can get a better go-at-it once off work. I liked the shots. one time i was facing the side line behind the three with 1 on the clock, i shot and he jumped spinning while in air to shoot, it looked dam good. the bump was still there but i wasnt out of control just felt like i was beat by the D , thumbs up. Fastbreaks look good, seem fluid. I really only noticed the ball being extremely live a few of times. i noticed my hand going through the ball and the ballhandlers didnt tend to lose the ball off the slightest contact ie bumping into other players. The demo felt like a better 2k11. It kinda makes me feel like they spent more time on legends. I think some are judging the game to high based on the demo, but thats to be expected in a nba 2k forum(ex. guys amazed by small ads in the corner, really). i was guilt of this last year so ima take my time before harsh judgement or great praise. i judge bball games on gameplay only. 2k12 feels likeit will be a $60 gameplay tweek and and roster update. but, you know what if they pull it off it may be worth it, to a degree. Why is ever1 saying this is an early build? Are you saying they wait 2weeks before realease to put out an old build. i wanna play what i would be purchasing. Seems like its a built in excuse for people. i played 2k11 demo while 2k12 downloaded and it felt better than the actual 2k11 current game.

cause the demo is never the final build and ronnie on twitter said it himself that it was not the final build. This is a stripped down version noticed how there wasnt any playcalling or defensive calling.

[VDusen04]

A few things:

1. Small, but I liked how the music kicked in before the game reached the title screen.

2. In 2K11, when being posted up, I could press the steal button and automatically make the post player spin in response (thus putting himself in a tougher position). This year, I gave the "steal" a whirl in the post and I was hit with a reach-in foul. Very necessary and welcomed improvement.

3. Last year, even if a computer non-point guard dribbled the ball up the floor, he'd try to pass the ball to the PG at all costs in order to initiate the offense. So with that, it was very neat to see LeBron James bringing the ball up the floor in 2K12 and watching Mario Chalmers react not by waiting at the top of the key for the ball, but rather by taking a position in the offense and letting LeBron initiate the play himself.

4. As others have said, the computer has become much less predictable in the early going here. They've had me off my feet in some iso situations.

5. I like the long bomb lead pass (where, if a player is releasing down floor, a teammate will throw it ahead of him a little and the receiver then reels it in off the bounce). LeBron James caught such a pass seamlessly and subsequently dunked it down. However, on my two attempts, there was an animation hiccup between catch and conversion. I think it had to do with my turbo button. I'd guess the catch of that long lob bounce occurs in non-turbo, so if I have turbo held down, I'd see that "glitch into turbo" animation right before taking off.

6. Of 5-6 dunks that have occurred, I'm not sure any of them have been new. I don't expect dunk overhauls each year, but I'm anxious to see new ones.

7. The controls in the post and off the dribble will definitely warrant some re-learning. I wasn't quite sure how to put together a series of dribble moves so at one point I just sort of spazzed out on the left analog stick and it actually created a series of smooth dribbling moves (that gave me no advantage over the defender the time - and rightfully so -, but still).

8. I've watched some Dirk 2K12 post highlight videos. A lot of the post moves look excellent. However, some of them have funny, and possibly illegal looking footwork that appear at least a little disjointed.

9. The presentation is very impressive in terms of introductions and in-game adverts. I'm guessing the "Buy 2K12 in early October" graphic that pops up in the left corner of the screen with Dirk and Bron will eventually be replaced by "upcoming showdowns" via NBA Today or Association. Very cool.

10. I don't know how I feel about crowd reaction audio at this point. It's hard to get a good read without having the commentary included and whatnot. But at this point, it really does sound as if crowd reactions aren't always accurate and on-point (like the ol' Ray Allen three point play bringing forth zero home crowd reaction in the OS gameplay video).

[Sam Marlowe]

Only had time to play for 5 mins before work, everythings already been said. The improvements are obvious. Just out of curiosity, someone try to fake pass off the dribble and tell me what happens. I didnt think to do it before i left.

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bootzilla

Yeah I'm already getting the hang of it and I know you're gonna have to give up something. I guess I'm projecting what I see in the demo to players that are quicker than LeBron and what they'll be like. LeBron seems more twitchy than in real life where he kinda of explodes with longer steps and sort of rolls into his gathers. No biggie just trying to chop my steps and force the ball handler to help. I like the chess match believe me.

I got you. Try tapping the left stick on defense that is who I play when I am locked in. Then you can hold both triggers and tap for that extra boost. Works better for me than holding a direction.

[illwill10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Eventually these games will peak at a certain point. It's crazy that this is a "negative" because you can only portray the sport of basketball so many ways. No one ever goes on a court then complains that basketball... feels like... basketball...

Agreed
When you get to NBA 2k level of continued success and constantly putting out good games, it gets to the point where you can put out a similar game and just "tweak" it and add features. 2k is at that point. The game was good at almost every phacet of the game, so there wasnt a urgency to create a Ground-breaking feature. I am getting this game day 1 and I dont have any second doubts about it.
I dont think there will be a huge difference here out in the next few years until the new consoles come out.

[hoodkid205]

AI is so much better dirk switched on lebron i was tryin the new hands up as soon as lebron saw my hands up he exploded right by me