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Old 09-20-2011, 12:09 AM   #313
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Great post, Panic.

Tensions run high any time people are giving opinions on anything, especially when two things are compared.

But, when moderators fail to moderate for whatever reason, blind loyalty to a game they feel love but feel is being attacked, a perceived attack on a company they don't want to anger for personal gain, or just good old immaturity, tensions grow even higher.

When that happens, its the failure of the moderator, who, in this case, inflamed things by losing his cool and cursing. Certainly not very mature.

Funny thing is that the conversion had already moved to a more tame tone before he acted. Then, off the back of the moderators comment, another immature person feels emblazoned to speak negatively also , merely showing his immaturity.

All of this would have been avoided by a skilled moderator.

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The tensions are getting a little too high now. I think everyone can agree the insults and the like can just stop because that doesn't accomplish anything but make whoever says it look bad. It doesn't add anything to the conversation.

I believe OS inadvertently got this ball rolling by not including PES in the demo roundtable to discuss both games and not just one. Yes, I know that they simply made a choice of what to cover and write about and since this is their site I have absolutely no issue with that and would not want to deal with the things they have to on a daily basis. But looking at it from another perspective it is easy for them to do a roundtable on Madden, NCAA, NHL, NBA 2K, and PGA considering there are currently no competitors for those games. But there is an established alternative for soccer with PES. I would have liked to see a pros and cons debate from the OS writers on the 2 games and even if they all said FIFA was better at least they would have offered their views for everyone to debate in an appropriate manner.

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Old 09-20-2011, 12:24 AM   #314
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again, give us a place to compare both games - because there just isn't such a place right now. There's a place to discuss each game individually, but not comparatively (in a civil manner). Until that happens, this problem will continue to arise.
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:27 AM   #315
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Both threads contain talk of the other game. That can't be avoided, especially since there is no dedicated comparison thread.

When threads go 100% talking about only one product, then this site will fail because people read impression threads for comparisons.

But, that's not the point. The point is that I have a ton of room in my pm box and a more mature moderator, one without an agenda, would have merely pm'd me.

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I think what you fail to and its people like me w.ho helped build this siteunderstand, is that the message QB trying to get across to you is: "Stop with the PES crap on a FIFA forum". Every post I read from you inevitably includes some sort of "PES does this better..." sort of deal. This is a FIFA forum, and this thread is for FIFA impressions. Come over to the PES forum and tell us all how great that game is this year.
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Played both games today a little more... both are first day purchases. Great year for footie!!
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Old 09-20-2011, 01:59 AM   #317
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I'm just asking to ask, can you turn on/off the impact engine in the retail version? If there are sliders I think one way to solve a few problems are increasing the likelihood of fouling. Based on the demo I would also decrease ai passing accuracy.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:05 AM   #318
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Took time off from the PES demo to actually devote some play-time to Fifa.

I had a decent game today (despite the short halves, grrr). 1-1 draw between City and the Gunners. Goalies are definitely great in Fifa and the ball interactions with the goalies are spot-on.

One thing that I still get annoyed with is the CPU trying to walking in every stinking goal, but overall the game feels VERY smooth this year and looks great to boot.

I hope that Fifa does more with the intros this year because I love the way that Konami did their intros to the game (both last year and this year) by showing the stadium and grounds crew -- a very TV production look. PES has the best atmosphere with their stadium shots, stat overlays and player walk out. I'd like to see Fifa do something similar as well because with EA's graphics, it would be such an amazing addition to the presentation.

I don't really notice the impact engine as much as I thought I would, but perhaps thats a good thing.

It's tough, honestly, to really want to play the Fifa demo because of the shortened halves because I feel rushed to score goals and not play my style so much.

Does anyone have info on Fifa sliders this year?
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Took time off from the PES demo to actually devote some play-time to Fifa.

I had a decent game today (despite the short halves, grrr). 1-1 draw between City and the Gunners. Goalies are definitely great in Fifa and the ball interactions with the goalies are spot-on.

One thing that I still get annoyed with is the CPU trying to walking in every stinking goal, but overall the game feels VERY smooth this year and looks great to boot.

I hope that Fifa does more with the intros this year because I love the way that Konami did their intros to the game (both last year and this year) by showing the stadium and grounds crew -- a very TV production look. PES has the best atmosphere with their stadium shots, stat overlays and player walk out. I'd like to see Fifa do something similar as well because with EA's graphics, it would be such an amazing addition to the presentation.

I don't really notice the impact engine as much as I thought I would, but perhaps thats a good thing.

It's tough, honestly, to really want to play the Fifa demo because of the shortened halves because I feel rushed to score goals and not play my style so much.

Does anyone have info on Fifa sliders this year?
We have a thread here in this forum for FIFA sliders this year. I was hoping for foul sliders this year, but no dice.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:48 AM   #320
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A pretty cool save off the line I had with Alves:

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