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Old 08-20-2011, 06:28 PM   #169
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings

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Shields may be faster, but Bush has very good physical ability. And Read and React hasn't been Bush's strength. Nor has playing the ball. He's played CB every year except for one where he was a part time Safety and Part time CB.

Then how out of date was your scouting data? That Shields was rated so low. I guess I used my eyes watching the GB games. You have the misfortune of not being able to watch EVERY game of EVERY team. So you do the best you can.

That's very true. I encourage you to do that. And others are free to respond to them. But your Shields picking nose comment was ridiculous.
Bush is more agile and gets up to top-end a bit quicker, but he is lacking the SPD and Jumping ability compared to Shields. I have Bush 6 points higher in AWR, mostly due to his greater experience in the league, and 9 points higher in play recognition for the same reason.

1. All the scouting data you see is PRELIMINARY and is not finalized. Read the FBGratings thread for more detail.

2. The scouting data is as of the end of last season, as well as the OVR ratings. That is to say, directly after the SB was played.

3. Shields had been upwards of a 71 before the SB was played.

4. Keep in mind that this system of ratings is designed to stretch out the ratings. Your "average" player that is a 75 in Madden according to EAs ratings is more like a 70 in mine.

5. Experience and injuries affect the OVR rating significantly, and they are often overcome by physical skills in the ratings system.

The point of the nose picking statement was to show how asinine it would be to not consider Bush's efforts that day in coverage.
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:28 PM   #170
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side note...in years past your ratings would have only been good for 1 season as the next years players ratings would skew high but now that u can edit every player in your franchise it's possible to have a few years on your rating system

looking forward to it
Indeed. Check out the FBG thread for more info or questions.
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From 11/1/2010 and 1/1/2010 until 8/1/2010 ourlads had him listed at FS. He has changed positions again, and the next time the ratings are updated, the positional change will cause his OVR to drop.

In the SB, he was listed as a FS according to ourlads.
What he was listed and what he played in the SB were 2 different things. After Woodson and Shields left the game, Bush and Lee came in and played CB and Nickel CB. Did you watch the game and where they played?
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What he was listed and what he played in the SB were 2 different things. After Woodson and Shields left the game, Bush and Lee came in and played CB and Nickel CB. Did you watch the game and where they played?
Of course he did! And sometimes Brad Smith played QB for the Jets last year. Does that mean that he is listed as a QB on the depth chart? Just because a guy plays a position in the game doesn't mean that is his listed spot. And in Madden, they assign positions so we have to list one. I choose to list the official position that a player is listed under on the depth chart. If your #2 FS also serves as a Dime CB, you don't list him as a CB.

And yes, I watched the game and where everyone was playing. Don't insult my viewership.
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Of course he did! And sometimes Brad Smith played QB for the Jets last year. Does that mean that he is listed as a QB on the depth chart? Just because a guy plays a position in the game doesn't mean that is his listed spot. And in Madden, they assign positions so we have to list one. I choose to list the official position that a player is listed under on the depth chart. If your #2 FS also serves as a Dime CB, you don't list him as a CB.

And yes, I watched the game and where everyone was playing. Don't insult my viewership.
Going by the couple of Packer examples you've given in this thread, and your rational, I don't have much confidence in your rating system, so I'll just stay clear of them. Hey if others enjoy them, great. Seems like you put a lot of time into this.

I just LOL at the couple of Packer examples you gave in this thread.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:20 PM   #174
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Going by the couple of Packer examples you've given in this thread, and your rational, I don't have much confidence in your rating system, so I'll just stay clear of them. Hey if others enjoy them, great. Seems like you put a lot of time into this.

I just LOL at the couple of Packer examples you gave in this thread.
Fine by me. To each his own.
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