FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

[garret2]

i really do think if on field 40 speeds were universal in the game we could end the talk about "well he is faster/slower than his 40 time so bump him up/down" because every player will play to his true field speed that you see on sundays. those on field speed ratings, along with all the others that dan has tirelessly worked on, wil give madden amazing realism. we will just have to get past things like "tomlinson is known for being fast and he ran a 4.45" because the on field speed ratings dont lie, he has slowed down a lot with age and injuries. dan if you can make this happen, myself and many others would be thrilled!!

[garret2]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

The on-field 40s are updated weekly. However, the SPD ratings you see right now are for the most part determined by combine and pro day data. The issue with the on-field 40s is that they can be miss-represented for some players. For example, Trindon Holliday officially has the fastest 40 recorded at a combine or pro day since 1998 at 4.21. However, his on-field is only a 4.35. Brett Swain's official 40 is around 4.58 but on-field he is at a 4.37. Some of those numbers are a bit too inconsistent for me. Here are some others. Which do you think are more accurate? M. Vick 93 or 87 L. Tomlinson 87 or 78 C. Ochocinco 81 or 86 R. Moss 90 or 88 R. Grant 88 or 84 M. Barber 86 or 81 T. Holliday 99 or 93 T. Romo 61 or 72 C. Palmer 78 or 62 W. McGahee 87 or 81 D. Driver 87 or 82 N. Asomugha 87 or 85 Let me know which ones you think are the most accurate.

i tend to think all of the on field speeds are most accurate because that is what they really run in games. and if that is what we are trying to measure than i honestly dont even see why we need the 40 yard dash times because they aren't nearly as applicable to football as the real on field times, in my mind.

[jcc309]

I very much appreciate what you do. Now let me just say two thoughts of mine.

1. You said that the overall ratings would not be available until mid-season in the best case scenario. If we were to use your attributes right now, would it make for an unrealistic gameplay? Or would it just have a skewed overall for trade value and such. So basically could we use your attributes to get a realistic gameplay without the overall being adjusted correctly when the game comes out?

2. I am an avid franchise player. You stated that the raw attributes for draft classes would be skewed and possibly make for not great gameplay. Do you have a template for changing the raw attribute rankings for the rookies or just a way to make them not have inflated raw attributes?

Thank you again I really like what I see from your website it looks great.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by jcc309

I very much appreciate what you do. Now let me just say two thoughts of mine. 1. You said that the overall ratings would not be available until mid-season in the best case scenario. If we were to use your attributes right now, would it make for an unrealistic gameplay? Or would it just have a skewed overall for trade value and such. So basically could we use your attributes to get a realistic gameplay without the overall being adjusted correctly when the game comes out? 2. I am an avid franchise player. You stated that the raw attributes for draft classes would be skewed and possibly make for not great gameplay. Do you have a template for changing the raw attribute rankings for the rookies or just a way to make them not have inflated raw attributes? Thank you again I really like what I see from your website it looks great.

1. Yes, the OVR ratings is imperative. If you go off of the raw attributes only, the gameplay will be skewed horribly.

2. The gameplay would be great, but the problem arises when you draft rookies. If a 4.40 is a 90 in my system and a 93 in EAs, then you will have issues. The problem is that EA's ratings dramatically over-inflate ratings IMO.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by garret2

i tend to think all of the on field speeds are most accurate because that is what they really run in games. and if that is what we are trying to measure than i honestly dont even see why we need the 40 yard dash times because they aren't nearly as applicable to football as the real on field times, in my mind.

I really want to know what more people think of this. In game 40s or measurable combine data? What does everyone prefer?

[TheSportzGuru]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

I really want to know what more people think of this. In game 40s or measurable combine data? What does everyone prefer?

in game 40s

[jcc309]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

1. Yes, the OVR ratings is imperative. If you go off of the raw attributes only, the gameplay will be skewed horribly. 2. The gameplay would be great, but the problem arises when you draft rookies. If a 4.40 is a 90 in my system and a 93 in EAs, then you will have issues. The problem is that EA's ratings dramatically over-inflate ratings IMO.

I see. Thanks for the reply. So I guess I will just have to wait for you to finish (stupid EA for messing with it!) as I can't stand their ratings as it puts way too much emphasis on speed. As for #2, do you have a way to tone down the ratings that we can use, or should we just go with what they give us?

As for speed, having played the game, I believe on-field 40 times, if easily obtained, are better. Plenty of people may be slow but play fast with pads on and vice versa.

[garret2]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

I really want to know what more people think of this. In game 40s or measurable combine data? What does everyone prefer?

ok guys this is your chance to have a say in one of the most disputed elements of madden, so lets here your opinions!