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Old 08-04-2011, 01:57 AM   #57
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 6 Wide Receivers

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@YeahthatGuy: Are you sure Fitzy's is only 52%. How would his be 4th best and Desean's the worst at 49%?
Those percentages are CATCH RATE. Fitz is 4th best in drop rate. Two totally different statistics.

For instance, Desean has a 49% catch rate, which is bad, but a 20% drop rate, which is abysmal. Fitz catch rate for 2010 was low at 52% because he was showered with targets from terrible QB's.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:06 AM   #58
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Fitz's catch rate was 52%.. But he only had 4 drops in 173 targets. Which tells me that's more on the Arizona QB's.

DeSean Jackson for example was 49% but he had 6 drops in just 90 targets.

Djax is a playmaker, and he's a home run threat, but he's not a Top tier all around WR. He's simply not. Plus he's like he was at Cal, hit him a few times, and he's done for the day.
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Those percentages are CATCH RATE. Fitz is 4th best in drop rate. Two totally different statistics.

For instance, Desean has a 49% catch rate, which is bad, but a 20% drop rate, which is abysmal. Fitz catch rate for 2010 was low at 52% because he was showered with targets from terrible QB's.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:11 AM   #59
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Those percentages are CATCH RATE. Fitz is 4th best in drop rate. Two totally different statistics.

For instance, Desean has a 49% catch rate, which is bad, but a 20% drop rate, which is abysmal. Fitz catch rate for 2010 was low at 52% because he was showered with targets from terrible QB's.
So, catch rate is how many catches out of how many were passes were thrown his way? Drop rate is based on the # of drops compared to how many catches they have?

Btw, Mike Wallace still has a long way to go, but last year started to show a willing to run shorter routes in the middle of the field. Mike Tomlin doesn't call him a one trick pony anymore!! I would rate him and Desean Jackson around an 88 overall. Maybe, an 89 to Mike and an 88 to Desean, but very close.

Compared to Santonio Holmes, Mike Wallace has the better hands while Holmes is the better route runner. I would think an 88-90 overall to Holmes is fair.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:18 AM   #60
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Djax is a playmaker, and he's a home run threat, but he's not a Top tier all around WR. He's simply not. Plus he's like he was at Cal, hit him a few times, and he's done for the day.
I 100% agree
I think if Maclin reaches his full potential than he could be a better WR than Jackson. Jackson is more of a 3-5(maybe 6) catch per game than a 6-10 catch guy, but he will AVG more than 18 yards per catch.In a WCO where alot of the passes are quick, unless he gets off the line/get open quickly he wont get the ball alot. He is not the type too make alot of tough catches in traffic or get off line off of great press CB. I seen alot of Eagles games where he might of had a few big plays, but most of the game he would disappear. He doesnt dominate an entire game. He would get a "No High Motor" trait

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Old 08-04-2011, 03:12 AM   #61
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IMO Greg Jennings should be above Calvin as far as overall is concerned. No doubt Calvin is the better physical specimen but Jennings dominates him stats wise. He had just as many catches and touchdowns and had more yards. You could say that Johnson had no QB mos of the season but I would counter that by saying Rodgers missed piratically 2 games and Jennings has more receiving talent around him than Calvin does in Detroit leading to less targets. Throw in that hes a number one receiver on a super bowl championship team, caught 31 receptions for 301 yards and 2 TDs in the postseason (4 for 64 and 2 TDs in the superbowl) and he should be ahead of Johnson who hasnt been that dominant considering the physical tools. Calvin is really being rated off of his potential and draft status here. Hes ag reat player but the stats dont lie.

I also feel Roddy White should be above Larry Fitzgerald. Though Larry is a great receiver so is White and Roddy blew Fitzgeralds numbers out of the water. Roddy even plays in a run first system and even when Fitz was in a pass first system he couldnt do what White did.

I would put Andre Johnson at 98, Roddy White at 97, Larry Fitzgerald at 96, Reggie Wayne at 95, Greg Jennings at 94, and Calvin Johnson at 93. They really need to stretch these top tier players ratings a bit. I know theres a curve when you enter the 90s and they should really separate the greatest and the great receivers in the league.
Your wrong buddy Roddy white isn't the 2nd best receiver in the league. Like it was in the top 100.
1 Johnson
2 fitzgerald
3 megatron
4 marshall
5 white
6 wayne
7 jennings

Roddy plays in a run first system but they still throw as much as the cardinals.
Cardinals couldn't establish a running game so you got no choice but to throw to Fitzgerald.

Johnson is more dominant than jennings. When you have Rodgers as your QB and the offensive talent of course he is going to get the stats. I'm a jennings fan however let's be serious he isn't a top 5 WR. Look at top 100 they had majority of the WR picks right.

Don't forget marshall he a stud soon as he get a decent qb his numbers will go up.

Wayne as the luxury of playing with Manning in a pass happy offense so of course he will get stats.
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:26 AM   #62
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The fact that Desean Jackson is being mentioned in this thread makes him a top 10 or top 5 receiver, hes far from a glorified punt returner btw, he's a WR first and a punt returner second.
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The most dangerous WR in the NFL needs to have more than 50 receptions and more than 6 TDs. That's not dangerous. Roddy White is dangerous. Apollo Creed is dangerous!
Hmm? Of course he's dangerous! 22.5 yards per catch. 47 rec, 1056 yards. Keep in mind the other weapons on the offense. He's not a high volume catcher, and he has a lot of games where he catches 2 or 3 or 4 passes but he gets 50, 60 yards or more out of them. He's perfect for that offense.

Well really he's perfect for any offense which I would say puts him in the top 10. Glorified kick returner is as ridiculous a statement as I've heard in a while, lets be real here. And we're now questioning Greg Jennings' place? 1. I think we're arguing just to argue in this case and 2. Are we all watching the same NFL here?

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1 Johnson 2 fitzgerald 3 megatron 4 marshall 5 white 6 wayne 7 welker 8 v jackson 9 bowe 10 rice maybe could put jennings here, and i see so many putting stats as a refernce well qb helps a lot, and jordan shipley owned everyone in the superbowl and i almost forgot that jennings was on there team bc the superbowl will be known as the shipley show, jennings had to be wide open to get the ball for most of his 4 catches, 1 wide open td pass, 1 wide open crtical 1st down late in the game, the only one he had where someone was near here was the td catch where he was hit by polomalu, everything else was jordan shipley this, jordan shipley that, i swear thats the only guy that caught a pass from rodgers, and when rodgers missed or he had a drop they stalled bc shipley wasnt doing everything, it was like jennings was there for the ride and not taking the show over like a top 6 wr like madden has him
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