Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

[iBlievN5]

Zach Miller and Seymour are the only "great" players the Raiders have right now. They have plenty of potential at S, LB, RB, and a couple at the WR position but by and large they are not a super talented team. No OL, no QB and just decent to good pieces on defense.

[Outkizast]

I will say this about the Raiders: They are not the same team that was a joke for the last decade. For most of those years, they neglected any attention to the O and D lines. Last year they FINALLY got their heads together and owned the trenches for most of the year on both sides of the ball. I would understand people saying that we shouldn't expect another 8-8 year if the wins seemed like flukes, but when a team is as dominant in the trenches as the Raiders were last year, I don't think it's crazy to think they have the potential for a great season.

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

In your opinion. Again, that has nothing to do with the fact you seem unable to grasp. these ratings are purely subjective. Again your opinion on NFL talent or roster talent holds no more weight than his or anyone's else.

well thanks captain obvious, and its my opinion these ratings and the guys who did them are clueless, understand?

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by iBlievN5

Zach Miller and Seymour are the only "great" players the Raiders have right now. They have plenty of potential at S, LB, RB, and a couple at the WR position but by and large they are not a super talented team. No OL, no QB and just decent to good pieces on defense.

No OLINE? Second in the league in rushing, GTFO.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

well thanks captain obvious, and its my opinion these ratings and the guys who did them are clueless, understand?

Do you even read your own posts.

[Jewelz0376]

Quote: Originally Posted by iBlievN5

Zach Miller and Seymour are the only "great" players the Raiders have right now. They have plenty of potential at S, LB, RB, and a couple at the WR position but by and large they are not a super talented team. No OL, no QB and just decent to good pieces on defense.

Raiders have one of the best rushing attacks in the league, one of the best d-lines, one of the best 4-3 slb, the #2 pass defense in the league with 3 of the top corners in the league statistically, and one of the best in terms of special teams (jano, lechler, and ford)...

Not saying that the Raiders should be a 90 overall or anything crazy, but there shouldn't be close to a 10 pt difference between the Raiders and Chiefs/SD

[iBlievN5]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

No OLINE? Second in the league in rushing, GTFO.

Have you seen your RBs and the massive amount of talent they have? Also, OLs have to pass block my friend and there are not many worse at that than the Raiders.

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by iBlievN5

Have you seen your RBs and the massive amount of talent they have? Also, OLs have to pass block my friend and there are not many worse at that than the Raiders.

HUH? Look at the stats, the raiders were middle of the road last year pass blocking and great at run blocking. and no a RB wont do anything if the line doesnt block well. At times last year the raisers physically dominated other teams. Only barry sanders could still get yardage with no blocking.