Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99. Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

good for you I also have seen both play, and Peyton manning has played against both, he said ASo was the best Cb he has seen. Given what i know of the position and the defense they deploy I'll take Aso any day of the week, manning would to. So would Rod woodson. I think those 2 know more then you. revis is flashier, has a much better supporting cast and has the New york media hyping him up, Aso is way better.

Given what you've posted recently you disagreeing with me, makes me feel even better about my opinion. thank you.

There's no reason to get upset when others don't agree with your opinion.

[iBlievN5]

I want to jump in on this, I read a lot of profootballfocus.com and they do "in-depth" film analysis and give out grades.

So, you say Aso is an excellent tackler, these paragraphs:

"One name that jumps out at the lower end of the spectrum is that of free agent supertarget, Nnamdi Asomugha, who has missed 20 tackles, which is one in every 5.5 he has attempted. I’ve had brief discussions with people before on this topic and so I didn’t want to leave it with just the raw numbers – I wanted to look a little further into Asomugha’s misses.

13 of his 20 misses were against running backs on designed running plays, including all of his 2010 misses. I’ve heard it suggested that this is a result of Asomugha not being asked to support the run, and so he is often out of position and approaching the tackle from poor angles or positions, but that isn’t really the case. In the majority of times, he’s in position, but simply can’t make the stop. Six of the misses were in the passing game against receivers, but perhaps the most damning miss came from 2008 when he was stiff-armed to the ground by a scrambling Jay Cutler."

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...ts-and-worsts/

say otherwise.

you say Revis has been had in coverage, and while that is somewhat true in the beginning of 2010, this article:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...is-overlooked/

details that by the end of 2010 Revis once again #1. Asomugha is amazing, but he's not Revis, he's not too far off of Revis though.

[Bk1234903]

Where is Mike Vick? Lol

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by iBlievN5

I want to jump in on this, I read a lot of profootballfocus.com and they do "in-depth" film analysis and give out grades. So, you say Aso is an excellent tackler, these paragraphs: "One name that jumps out at the lower end of the spectrum is that of free agent supertarget, Nnamdi Asomugha, who has missed 20 tackles, which is one in every 5.5 he has attempted. I’ve had brief discussions with people before on this topic and so I didn’t want to leave it with just the raw numbers – I wanted to look a little further into Asomugha’s misses. 13 of his 20 misses were against running backs on designed running plays, including all of his 2010 misses. I’ve heard it suggested that this is a result of Asomugha not being asked to support the run, and so he is often out of position and approaching the tackle from poor angles or positions, but that isn’t really the case. In the majority of times, he’s in position, but simply can’t make the stop. Six of the misses were in the passing game against receivers, but perhaps the most damning miss came from 2008 when he was stiff-armed to the ground by a scrambling Jay Cutler." http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...ts-and-worsts/ say otherwise. you say Revis has been had in coverage, and while that is somewhat true in the beginning of 2010, this article: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...is-overlooked/ details that by the end of 2010 Revis once again #1. Asomugha is amazing, but he's not Revis, he's not too far off of Revis though.

This is the dumbest post i have ever read. name one Cb that can tackle a RB one on one? You know why Aso is left at times 1 on1 versus RB? The raiders play man to man, if a Rb gets past the LB's the CB's all have their backs turned to the play so they have tendency to give up big plays. Aso at times is left in the open field against a RB no CB can make that tackle often. Learn some football.

The stats clearly show aso much better in coverage. statistically ASo has the best shudown numbers ever. Again, revis also has a much betetr supporting cast and help.

Manning rod woodson and other players have said aso is the best corner in the game.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

This is the dumbest post i have ever read. name one Cb that can tackle a RB one on one? You know why Aso is left at times 1 on1 versus RB? The raiders play man to man, if a Rb gets past the LB's the CB's all have their backs turned to the play so they have tendency to give up big plays. Aso at times is left in the open field against a RB no CB can make that tackle often. Learn some football. The stats clearly show aso much better in coverage. statistically ASo has the best shudown numbers ever. Again, revis also has a much betetr supporting cast and help. Manning rod woodson and other players have said aso is the best corner in the game.

Yeah it's everyone else who needs to learn football. Classic.

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Yeah it's everyone else who needs to learn football. Classic.

Anyone who uses TACKLING RB"S as proof a cb is betteer then another dosnt have a clue that's a fact.

[iBlievN5]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

This is the dumbest post i have ever read. name one Cb that can tackle a RB one on one? You know why Aso is left at times 1 on1 versus RB? The raiders play man to man, if a Rb gets past the LB's the CB's all have their backs turned to the play so they have tendency to give up big plays. Aso at times is left in the open field against a RB no CB can make that tackle often. Learn some football. The stats clearly show aso much better in coverage. statistically ASo has the best shudown numbers ever. Again, revis also has a much betetr supporting cast and help. Manning rod woodson and other players have said aso is the best corner in the game.

So, you didn't click the links.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

Anyone who uses TACKLING RB"S as proof a cb is betteer then another dosnt have a clue that's a fact.

That wasn't what he was saying at all. He was arguing your point that Aso was a superior tackler to Revis.

However the notion that CB's cant tackle RB's is laughable. CB's are used in a run force role in today's defenses more than ever thanks to the proliferation of the cover 2 and zone combo defenses.