Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

First game they lost because they couldn't get a punt off. Second game they lost simply because the Raiders outplayed them. Again not an excuse merely a fact. Bottom-line for this subject the Raiders were an 8-8 team with point diff of just +39. That's the epitome of average so I am not sure how much higher they should be rated. They were 29th in the league vs. the pass with Aso so I don't imagine that is going to get better. Particularly since teams are only in their base defense what 45% of the time these days. Losing a another CB is big. Not to mention without him basically taking away the opposing teams #1 they can't give Routt and the others the same type of help coverage they were able to in the past. I realize the Raiders have been awful for the better part of a decade and since they showed some life last year Raider fan feels they should get more respect than they probably deserve. It happens every year with certain fan bases.

None of what you said changes the fact that the raiders are rated way too low, are the chiefs 10 points betetr? You can make a strong argument the raiders are better then the chiefs.

Average team should get an average rating, the rating says one of the worst teams in the NFL, understand now? It is not rocket science.

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

ESPN picked them. Oh well then it must be true.

Irrelevant, just shows being rated as one of the worst teams in the league is moronic.

[PowerPitcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

I believe they are too lowly rated and they are they are as good if not better then the chiefs who are rated 10 points higher. anyone who knows anything about football knows they raiders are not one of the worst teams in the league this year, that rating says they are. Most see the raiders as a team on the rise, ESPN picked them to win the west. its not rocket science, teams no better are ranked much higher.

I believe Madden ranks teams by their players. And as such I can understand the Raiders low rating, the Raiders are packed with athletic players, unfortunately "athletic" does not always equal "talented".

[BigSpleen]

Quote: Originally Posted by PowerPitcher

I believe Madden ranks teams by their players. And as such I can understand the Raiders low rating, the Raiders are packed with athletic players, unfortunately "athletic" does not always equal "talented".

total ignorance, other then DHB name 1? Raiders have a lot of great players (Zach miller, seymour, Mcfadden, Branch, ford, Bush,Wimbley, mcclean) etc.. Spewing the old raiders myths i see.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

None of what you said changes the fact that the raiders are rated way too low, are the chiefs 10 points betetr? You can make a strong argument the raiders are better then the chiefs. Average team should get an average rating, the rating says one of the worst teams in the NFL, understand now? It is not rocket science.

What argument can you make that they are?

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

Irrelevant, just shows being rated as one of the worst teams in the league is moronic.

ESPN's pre-season picks mean nothing. Hell they have picked the Chargers for the SB like 3 of the past 6 seasons.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

total ignorance, other then DHB name 1? Raiders have a lot of great players (Zach miller, seymour, Mcfadden, Branch, ford, Bush,Wimbley, mcclean) etc.. Spewing the old raiders myths i see.

With the exception of possibly Seymour none of those players are great. Some of them are pretty good, but none are great.. McFadden could be, need to see him play like that more than just one year. Bush is a nice player and a banger but he's not a great player. Ford and McClain had nice rookie years, but it's way to early to call them great as well.

If you look at the Raiders roster they have some talent, but not a lot of depth and there certainly are holes on the roster. At least on paper.

[PowerPitcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigSpleen

total ignorance, other then DHB name 1? Raiders have a lot of great players (Zach miller, seymour, Mcfadden, Branch, ford, Bush,Wimbley, mcclean) etc.. Spewing the old raiders myths i see.

Total ignorance? LOL
Well sir, your WHOLE ARGUMENT is ignorant, if the Raiders where in fact the team you claim they are, they would have a record that showed it. A few good players, doesn't make a good team, I will be willing to bet you $100 the Raiders don't make the playoffs this year.