Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by walkman02

**** San Diego, they suck ballz!

I guess the MENSA meeting got out early today.

I can't wait for school to start again.

[MK Redline]

Looking forward to rebuilding these Broncos under Tebow. Hopefully Fox can pick up some good Free Agents this coming Wednesday!

[dirtguru]

Quote: Originally Posted by Broncos86

Boy do I have my work cut out for me.

I feel your pain!!! As a pocket passer I think I will go with Orton but I'm still not sure?

We got some potential on defense though.

[mestevo]

I'm surprised the Raiders are that low, they've been a collection of talented players for some time, just rarely played as a team. Aso leaving does hurt a bit as far as this team OVR goes.

[PowerPitcher]

Every fan believes their team is better that it truly is, let the #'s speak for themselves Raiders go (6-0) 8-8?!?! That just SCREAMS "BAD DIVISION" to me that means they went 2-8 against non division teams! What part of that means UNDERRATED??????

[Outkizast]

I could care less about any of the team "overall" ratings in Madden. Because they very rarely are that telling of how well a team will play in a game of Madden. I remember starting a Franchise with the Bills last year and I was rated an 84 or something... Then on the field I would get killed... I don't know how they do their team rating system, but I think it's lame.

Regarding the Raiders: I think the discrepancy between the Raiders and the Chargers is what doesn't seem right to me. The Raiders beat the Chargers twice last year, beat the Chiefs twice last year, and beat the Broncos twice last year. If anything, put the Chargers down some. They have been overrated for a while now.

Aso leaving the Raiders does hurt the secondary obviously, as losing the best player at any position will do. Whoever was talking about how great Routt is has obviously not watched any Raiders games recently (within the past oh 4 years or so). As someone who watches EVERY Raider game each year, Routt is a BIG liability in man coverage. If Aso is gone, the Raiders will need to make a move for someone else in the secondary.

[Jewelz0376]

Quote: Originally Posted by Outkizast

I could care less about any of the team "overall" ratings in Madden. Because they very rarely are that telling of how well a team will play in a game of Madden. I remember starting a Franchise with the Bills last year and I was rated an 84 or something... Then on the field I would get killed... I don't know how they do their team rating system, but I think it's lame. Regarding the Raiders: I think the discrepancy between the Raiders and the Chargers is what doesn't seem right to me. The Raiders beat the Chargers twice last year, beat the Chiefs twice last year, and beat the Broncos twice last year. If anything, put the Chargers down some. They have been overrated for a while now. Aso leaving the Raiders does hurt the secondary obviously, as losing the best player at any position will do. Whoever was talking about how great Routt is has obviously not watched any Raiders games recently (within the past oh 4 years or so). As someone who watches EVERY Raider game each year, Routt is a BIG liability in man coverage. If Aso is gone, the Raiders will need to make a move for someone else in the secondary.

I gotta disagree with you about Routt... I watch every game and he played great...Sure he got burned sometimes, but considering what the Raiders ask their corners to do he did his job... Not every cb on the raiders can be Nnamdi..

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...one-in-oakland

He had the 3rd lowest completion % against him last season among corners at 39.4%...which was tied with Nnamdi...Teams never threw at Nnamdi so they often challenged Routt and he more than held his own imo...

Routt needs to have at least a 90 in man coverage

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by Outkizast

I could care less about any of the team "overall" ratings in Madden. Because they very rarely are that telling of how well a team will play in a game of Madden. I remember starting a Franchise with the Bills last year and I was rated an 84 or something... Then on the field I would get killed... I don't know how they do their team rating system, but I think it's lame. Regarding the Raiders: I think the discrepancy between the Raiders and the Chargers is what doesn't seem right to me. The Raiders beat the Chargers twice last year, beat the Chiefs twice last year, and beat the Broncos twice last year. If anything, put the Chargers down some. They have been overrated for a while now. Aso leaving the Raiders does hurt the secondary obviously, as losing the best player at any position will do. Whoever was talking about how great Routt is has obviously not watched any Raiders games recently (within the past oh 4 years or so). As someone who watches EVERY Raider game each year, Routt is a BIG liability in man coverage. If Aso is gone, the Raiders will need to make a move for someone else in the secondary.

Chargers were missing a lot of players when the Raiders beat them. Still took what 3 (or was it 2 I don't remember) blocked punts to beat them in the first game.

If SD returns everyone, they should on paper be pretty good. That being said Gates has been dinged up a lot lately and with the new CBA in the works, there's no guarantee Floyd or Jackson will be back at the WR positions.

As far as the Raiders ratings, I tend to agree that they are rated low there's some talent on that roster. I think they lack depth and have some holes, but at the skill positions they look pretty damn solid. Ford is a nightmare to cover, Miller is probably one of the most underrated TE's in the league, and McFadden and Bush represent a nice 1-2 punch. McFadden finally showed flashes of being the player everyone thought he could be when he was drafted. I am a huge Michael Bush fan. I so desperately wanted the Chargers to draft him. He reminds me of Marion Butts with his running style and his physical makeup. He's a presence and can wear down a defense, who's usually already tired after chasing McFadden around the field.

I think KC caught lightning in a bottle, I am not convinced they are quite as good as their record indicated they were.

Just going on talent on paper I would rank the Raiders #2 behind the Chargers, if the Chargers do indeed keep everyone and Gates remains healthy. If not then I think the it's anyones guess.

Phillip Rivers however does give the Chargers the chance to win any game. His production last year despite the fact that the Chargers were literally signing guys off the streets to play WR was pretty phenomenal.

I think the top 3 in the division are pretty close together the more I look at it however.

I will say this about Routt, I didn't watch the Raiders a ton last year, but San Diego had a lot of success against him. Malcolm Floyd had a 200 yard game, and I think IIRC a lot of that was on him. Rivers threw for 700 yards in the two games they played, and they picked on him quite a bit in those games. If memory serves.. I may be off there, as I have tried to block last season from my memory.