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Old 07-21-2011, 05:21 PM   #449
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Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

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I think its going a little overboard calling this HUGE or BIG, BIG. For me, HUGE is if it makes the game unplayable or the game is freezing. Its still an annoying issue no doubt.

Also, if this really happens every year then the blame starts to move over to the customer. What other product would you buy every year if you know that out of the box there would be issues and that you wouldnt be satisfied with the product until a month or two after you bought it? I know I cant think of one yet every year you guys rush in mass to buy the game Day 1.
Huge to you is different than others. The majority of my OD refuses to play until this is fixed. Nobody wants to play a 70 speed QB and watch him try to run 15 times a game, but have a speedster not use his natural athleticism to help his team out. Might not be broken, but it definitely has a major effect on gameplay.

On blaming the consumers: People probably shouldn't go get this on release day anymore, but you think that a company as large as EA could avoid releasing a broken game every year. Are we morons for buying it? Yes. But that doesn't give the company an excuse to put out a broken product. Look at the backlash over NASCAR 2011. You want to tell me that company hasn't lost a ton of respect and money due to that fiasco? EA has been heading this way. Many people are now just waiting and buying the game used instead of on release day.

OS customers are a different breed than the majority. We get it on release day because we're college football and college football gaming junkies. We will suffer through a broken game and play it because it's our only way, with the exclusive contract EA has. Plenty of people I know that used to go out at midnight to pick up the game have stopped and now buy it used. The midnight release at my local GameStop has gone from 150 people to about 35 in the past 3 years. For 11, I showed up at 11:30 and got my game at 12:20. This year, I showed up at 11:45 and got it at 12:03. People aren't going out in droves anymore to pick it up like they used to because the quality isn't there. Only the hardcore people, like OS members, are.
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I feel it is huge. Editing rosters is huge in a lot of sports games, but especially college. Their are people that wait to play their game or dynasty until rosters are out. As someone else said, if I want to edit something as simple as a wristband, it potentially screws that player up and how he plays.

Last year I got NCAA first day, this year I got it early. While I like last years, dynasty became unplayable and now this bug this year. I've learned my lesson with NCAA Like I did with Madden three years ago. It will be wait and see next year.

But what really bothers me... Is when I go in my bedroom and see NCAA07 for LG, and see at one point in time, with the exclusive deal, they were
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Here is the reality: You guys want new features every year right? Well alot of times when they add new features or fix issues from the previous year....things get broken. EA would have no problem at all just giving you NCAA 07 every year with updated rosters if people were willing to buy it but that isnt the case. So saying "It worked last year" doesnt matter because this is a new game with new features that can sometimes cause big problems.

Every year as these games add more features and become more advanced the likelihood of bugs like this increase. I hope you actually do wait next year but if you dont lets not go overboard with the bitching. You've been warned two years straight now.
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Exactly. I am hoping that once they patch it everything just switches back to normal but there is a chance that it won't be that easy.
To me as programmer, it seems like it should be simple... but as I'm sure there code is quite complex by the miriad of problems we see, it's probably not. Everything looks correct in the edit menu. There is a trigger somewhere in the code that is telling it do the opposite on the roster screen. That new label there causes problems in game. Sim results appear not to be affected with further research, but I'm not ready to confirm that. I want to do some more testing myself, but with slow menus, it gets old fast, but I will do some more later.
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Im more disgusted in myself than EA, I was blinded by NCAA mania. Just last night, my wife said "You shouldve waited two weeks", damn near threw her out the window.
Then you need some perspective. LOL. Its a game and its still playable. Its an annoying glitch but you can still play the game.
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Here is the reality: You guys want new features every year right?
I really don't want new features every year. I just want a good, simulation-based football game without bugs or glitches, and editing capabilities. Is that really too much to ask for from EA?
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I hate this stuff. Finally I've realized, I need to wait for NCAA Football next year. I won't buy it at launch, if I even buy it all.
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Huge to you is different than others. The majority of my OD refuses to play until this is fixed. Nobody wants to play a 70 speed QB and watch him try to run 15 times a game, but have a speedster not use his natural athleticism to help his team out. Might not be broken, but it definitely has a major effect on gameplay.

On blaming the consumers: People probably shouldn't go get this on release day anymore, but you think that a company as large as EA could avoid releasing a broken game every year. Are we morons for buying it? Yes. But that doesn't give the company an excuse to put out a broken product. Look at the backlash over NASCAR 2011. You want to tell me that company hasn't lost a ton of respect and money due to that fiasco? EA has been heading this way. Many people are now just waiting and buying the game used instead of on release day.

OS customers are a different breed than the majority. We get it on release day because we're college football and college football gaming junkies. We will suffer through a broken game and play it because it's our only way, with the exclusive contract EA has. Plenty of people I know that used to go out at midnight to pick up the game have stopped and now buy it used. The midnight release at my local GameStop has gone from 150 people to about 35 in the past 3 years. For 11, I showed up at 11:30 and got my game at 12:20. This year, I showed up at 11:45 and got it at 12:03. People aren't going out in droves anymore to pick it up like they used to because the quality isn't there. Only the hardcore people, like OS members, are.
The numbers dont back that up. The games sales last year didnt drop significantly from two yrs ago. Also one Gamestop isnt exactly an example of a drop in quality. The past 3 yrs I ran all over town to get the game before release date and paid 10-20 bucks over retail. This yr, I got it from Amazon. Why? Because this year there are other games I'm playing right now that are taking up my time (like the Show). It had nothing to do with the quality of the game.

Also the Nascar comparison doesnt apply. That game came out in April, right? And still no patch in July. This patch will be out in Aug/Sept around the time the patch is always released.
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:29 PM   #456
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I hate the wait, but maybe they should push the release date back to late July/early August. Those extra couple weeks could make a big difference. Patches seemed like they would change "next gen" gaming but in fact they probably made it worse. Maybe I was oblivious, but I don't remember these major bugs during the PS2 days.
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