Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

The only thing I don't agree with Road is that we have now gotten so used to the madden machine's M/O that if we get ONE area that improves it's like a gift from God. The game needs to be improved in many areas. They fix a few bugs, create some new ones, add a few things in that have been ignored for years and then they expect a big pat on the back. Kind of reminds me of a guy I work with. He is always bitching that he deserves a promotion for just doing his job. He's not very special, doesn't work late ever and never gives it an extra effort, yet he feels he should be compensated like a super star. Now I'm not going to sit here and short change what they have tried to do this year. I really applaud the single player franchise improvements, the gameplay improvements, etc. etc. That's great stuff. However, the product is still grossly incomplete. We pay full price for a product that is missing pieces in the parts bag. I'm going to give offline franchise a shot this year because I have never been able to get past week 3 when I play it. I just can't play the computer because I've been playing the guys on my friends list for so many years, it really has become way more fun. I don't play lobby games or any of that. I strictly play the guys on my list and the guys in my league. It's an incredibly enjoyable experience. There is nothing like competing against another football mind. Not just on the field, but with all of the team management. Haggling over trades, draft picks, etc. etc. It's really really cool. I'll be honest, since Tiburon always has an excuse as to why they can't get the football right, I'd much rather them fix the gameplay than anything else, but there is no reason why they can't fix the gameplay AND complete the other modes. It's EA for crying out loud and it's a product that makes MILLIONS. Staff the team properly to deliver something of quality to your customer base. There should be plenty of developers working on the separate areas. I really hope that one day a disgruntled employee makes a documentary exposing what really goes on there. I bet there are countless fights between developers and upper management. Hell, I work for a large company and I have my own stories. Sometimes I wish I could spill it to some of our customers... The EA marketing machine should not be worrying about making a game that is TOO good to compel gamers to come back for the following year. If you make it exceptional they will be coming back forever.

You have to understand, though, Taz, that offline franchise folks have been waiting double the time vs online franchise folks for any improvement whatsoever. When I see, one side state "offline franchise guys cry and they get thrown a bone," that kind of talk separates people more than bonding people together and helping the improvement talk going forward.

Just to add to that Taz, I'm pretty sure they are implementing what you and I are asking for. I don't like using the phrase, better late than never, but they are doubling the size of the game play team, physics engine will be addressed in the future(better than not hearing anything on it) and in the future online and offline franchise improvements added simultaneously.

Time will tell, but these suggestions and improvements can't hurt.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Still2REal

MY point is that we can all get what we want. Accepting anything less is falling into their trap. I'm not telling anyone to refuse to buy the game or anything, but comments like "I don't care about Online Franchise forget you guys" hurts both parties.

I don't think you can isolate people who don't care about Online Franchise, but to say forget you guys, yes, I agree.

I think you need to separate the "I don't care" attitudes and the forget you guys, attitudes, because I don't recall anyone saying forget you guys in here. Maybe I could care less, etc......

If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.

Edit- I just ran a search in the thread and only two people said, forget you guys, and that was you and I. Sounds like it's a vibe your getting off this thread.

[Still2REal]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I don't think you can isolate people who don't care about Online Franchise, but to say forget you guys, yes, I agree. I think you need to separate the "I don't care" attitudes and the forget you guys, attitudes, because I don't recall anyone saying forget you guys in here. Maybe I could care less, etc...... If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. Edit- I just ran a search in the thread and only two people said, forget you guys, and that was you and I. Sounds like it's a vibe your getting off this thread.

I wasn't trying to provide a direct quote, simply convey the vibe as you stated. In my eyes "I couldn't care less" is a passive-aggressive way of saying "forget you guys". If you couldn't care less, why would you even post on the thread referencing the fact that Online Franchise was not touched.

[Skyboxer]

My main issue is:
1: They add in Online franchise mode at last second and say "we knew you wanted it so we threw in a bare bone one for right now" (Or something like that)
2: They don't touch it the next year and use the excuse that "It was the least used mode"..Well no kidding. It sucked.

Basically the lame excuse in #2 just put a sour taste in everyones mouth.

3: Now it remains untouched again but that's ok because...
for what they did for offline. As long as they keep makiing offline better and work on the online mode for next year for those that want it...

It's a game... Not going to let stuff like this stress me out...

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Still2REal

I wasn't trying to provide a direct quote, simply convey the vibe as you stated. In my eyes "I couldn't care less" is a passive-aggressive way of saying "forget you guys". If you couldn't care less, why would you even post on the thread referencing the fact that Online Franchise was not touched.

I see what you are saying, but I just don't get the same vibe you are receiving. I just feel they are stating how they feel, it's not a mode they play.

There are several people in this thread that have said they feel bad it wasn't included and hope it's in next year, including myself. Those comments can't be ignored and do help out both parties.

We are on the same page, just don't allow one or two opinions stand in the way the majority of people have responded.

Support is needed in both areas.

[g2thecore]

Just adding to what Roadman said, I can't speak for those saying they could care less about OF not getting touched, but the point I was trying to make is that I can understand the reason why it wasn't. I hear people making arguments about how they should have a bigger team, and more resources etc....I agree with you guys, but that's water under the bridge at this point.

Ultimately, offline franchise wasn't updated for the entirety of this gen of football gaming. At least OF was added in 2010, and you guys got some enjoyment out of it. We're not saying that you guys don't have a legitimate reason to be upset, but I think if you put things into perspective it's really not that bad. In the end, we are all winners. Regardless of which mode you play or enjoy, it all comes down to the gameplay. With the addition of DPP, and the elimination of suction blocking, the gameplay should hold us off till next year when OF gets all the love it deserves.

[JMHSteelers08]

Well this will be the 2nd year in a row I wont buy Madden!!!! But will buy NCAA 2012!!!!! You can make a good franchise mode in college but not Madden!!!! come on now!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nortobc]

Quote: Originally Posted by JMHSteelers08

Well this will be the 2nd year in a row I wont buy Madden!!!! But will buy NCAA 2012!!!!! You can make a good franchise mode in college but not Madden!!!! come on now!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with this guy. I won't buy Madden again this year. The only reason I would buy Madden is because I want to import my NCAA class from my NCAA online dynasty I have with my friends and then we can also have an online Madden dynasty.