Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by Steve_OS

Met Phil at E3, quite some time ago. He is DEFINITELY a hardcore guy. I could tell, just from talking with him. Others can tell by reading tweets from him. Played Ian in one of the OS leagues (I'm 1-1 against him btw ). He is hardcore as well. Both guys will be missed, some of you guys might be eating your words when it comes time to give feedback for the game these 2 put into it. Who knows what the next guy will want. Maybe he goes to IGN or Gamefaqs to get feedback. You never know what you got, til it's gone. On another note, don't people look for other jobs? I mean, who really wants to do the same thing year in and year out? Especially when PR and marketing have more say-so than the people that actually grind away at the game? Maybe they are leaving because of the money, maybe they are leaving because of all the politics that go on behind the scenes at EA (that none of us remotely have a clue about). Either way, Phil and Ian did what "they could do", while other things they had no control over, ruin their visions, then... of course... they get the blame. Oh well, sad to see Phil go, but we all have to carry on. In the end, it's whatever makes them happy. You can't expect cherries on top of everything, no matter where you work. I bet Phil and Ian are just as pissed off as the hardcore guy is, when they can't get something in the game

SNAP! The SAME THING I have been saying for 3 years!!! Good post Steve!

[BezO]

I want to see Phil, Ian and some others on OS as fans. That would be fun.

[adfletch71]

Quote: Originally Posted by K_GUN

it's the tech that Tiburon uses...not the people

hey K_GUN

I have too disagree with u about the presentation aspect of the game, they could have outshined NFL2k5 this gen, but didn't for some reason. Gameplay wise is debatable. They was on the right track with the Extra Point and could have really built off of that. Madden presentation has been bland and boring for 6 years and still lacking. Take out the intros and camera angles, its still Maddens ole presentation. Its a lot more than intros and camera angles, it does help though. Look at NBA2K11 and MLB2K11 presentation package and commentary..outstanding!!! Madden needs to take notes on that, then they can say they "true to the game".

[Phobia]

Ian, just want to say glad to see you back on OS posting and such. More as a gamer but with the knowledge of the inside outs of the sports gaming industry is something we can all learn here at OS so there are less of the ignorant posts how the developers "don't care".

I wanted to get your insight on a subject I think has been brought to the table to much.

Many people talk about how the "locomotion engine and Animation engines" are holding the game back and they (EA devs) should re-write the engine. I stand behind the stance these engines (code) take multiple years to write, test, implement, and then further tweak and test to get desired results out of the tech.

The flame I have received is that the 08 direction of Madden changed the tech up for 09 and people believe they were written in a single year "So why can't you fix the locomotion, sliding, foot planting in one year by writing new tech?". I made the comment that the tech used in 09 was mostly in development from 07 or so.

Can you give a little insight on the length of time it takes to implement these "techs" we see such as "pro-tak", "Double hit tackles", "Animation blending", etc etc

Again, glad you back on OS

[RGiles36]

Quote: Originally Posted by adfletch71

Madden presentation has been bland and boring for 6 years and still lacking. Take out the intros and camera angles, its still Maddens ole presentation. Its a lot more than intros and camera angles, it does help though. Look at NBA2K11 and MLB2K11 presentation package and commentary..outstanding!!! Madden needs to take notes on that, then they can say they "true to the game".

We're off topic here, but I think you've been selling the presentation upgrades short. If you want to dwell on the lack of 2K5ish halftime & postgame shows, cool. But do realize that the majority of sports games don't take the NFL2K5 approach as far as shows go.

And camera angles are critical to the presentation. The angles were awful in M10 (heads getting cut off in close shots) and not much better in M11. How can you dismiss this improvement?

The banners themselves seem to be improved and will keep the user informed -- as wasn't the case the last two years.

The commentary still leaves something to be desired without a doubt. But to suggest that the presentation is the 'same-ol presentation' sounds agenda driven.

[RogueHominid]

Thanks to Phil for the hard work on this year's game. I wish I could super-sim life until late August so I can get my hands on this game ASAP. The franchise improvements have me more excited for Madden than I've been in a long, long time.

Good luck in your future endeavors!

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

Thanks to Phil for the hard work on this year's game. I wish I could super-sim life until late August so I can get my hands on this game ASAP. The franchise improvements have me more excited for Madden than I've been in a long, long time. Good luck in your future endeavors!

TM, you thinking Online Franchise of the ol APF crew? Shiz, CreatineKC, Me, You, pappy, DCMC, Teambayern, Grunt, Doc, Dakkon, etc

A ACQB reunion lol

[iva-chargers-fan]

Good luck to Phil, but dont be suprised if madden is back to being crap next year (Madden 12 one hit wonder)