Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

[carnalnirvana]

its about time these guys move on, they have other talents and probably wanted to work on other projects..... unless you are getting a pension most workers like to move around after about 7 years IMO. i see it all the time in corporate america dont see why it cant be true for tech guys as well...

[Step2001]

Thanks Phil for your time and all the hard work you have put in over they years.

Thanks again Ian for all you did for the Franchise. '10 was and is the turning point for Madden.

Everything I've read on the new guy "Cam" sounds good as to Madden staying pointed in the right direction that it is.

Looking forward to playing '12

[K_GUN]

Quote: Originally Posted by adfletch71

I wish Phil luck in the future. Madden needs a change and the direction they was heading was entirely too slow with simulation football. Hopefully Cam Weber understands this and sees that changes are needed for a new direction with the franchise. Madden after 6 years still havent surpassed NFL2k5 in presentation and ALLPRO2k8 in gameplay yet. Still slipping and sliding, no footplanting...etc. Hopefully the future is SIM football for madden, just have easier sliders for the casual fans. We need what we see on sundays and it hasnt been the case for Madden these 6 years.

it's the tech that Tiburon uses...not the people

[Hova57]

Everytime we talk about engines for Madden and Ncaa we gotta here about FIFA and NHL. What many don't realize is when FIFA was at its lowest. They decided then to redo their engines piece by piece. FIFA and NHL flourished, there was no expectation because series was doing bad. Madden and NCAA took awhile because original Next Gen dev thought they could move on with doing so. Ian has brought this up before that is was overruled to making a new engine so they worked with what they had till Ian and Phil got the permission to start taking the engine apart and adding new. This is where we got to Madden 12 and NCAA 12. I feel that we don't have to worry bout the direction of the games. EA current structure won't allow with Cam Weber for both titles he himself said there is a plan. i believe him.

[TexasBorn1]

Mr.Frazier has been working on Madden for as long as I can remember. don't know why he's leaving, but still good luck to him

[Bumble14]

Best of luck to Phil and his future endeavors. Great guy who will no doubt be doing great things at his next position.

As cynical as our community can be here at OS, I think it's important to step back and realize just how much time and effort both Ian and Phil put in to communicate with our site and community over the years. Both love sports gaming just as much as we do.

As Mr. Noah mentioned, we are crossing our fingers the person(s) that fills their shoes will look to OS for feedback and communication. Thanks again guys, it was a great run.

[Smoke6]

Wait a minute, is this a new thread or has he always been the one leaving...

Man im so confused, if this is fillycheze leaving, man wtf is going on at EA? I mean, I knw we can be very critical and all, but damn man just dont up and leave, I have been upset over madden but not ever wanting anyone to ever quit or lose there job over it, just to get better at the game is all.

Wow man, well goodluck in whatever it is you're headed for next.

[Skyboxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by Steve_OS

Met Phil at E3, quite some time ago. He is DEFINITELY a hardcore guy. I could tell, just from talking with him. Others can tell by reading tweets from him. Played Ian in one of the OS leagues (I'm 1-1 against him btw ). He is hardcore as well. Both guys will be missed, some of you guys might be eating your words when it comes time to give feedback for the game these 2 put into it. Who knows what the next guy will want. Maybe he goes to IGN or Gamefaqs to get feedback. You never know what you got, til it's gone. On another note, don't people look for other jobs? I mean, who really wants to do the same thing year in and year out? Especially when PR and marketing have more say-so than the people that actually grind away at the game? Maybe they are leaving because of the money, maybe they are leaving because of all the politics that go on behind the scenes at EA (that none of us remotely have a clue about). Either way, Phil and Ian did what "they could do", while other things they had no control over, ruin their visions, then... of course... they get the blame. Oh well, sad to see Phil go, but we all have to carry on. In the end, it's whatever makes them happy. You can't expect cherries on top of everything, no matter where you work. I bet Phil and Ian are just as pissed off as the hardcore guy is, when they can't get something in the game

Yep. I hope whatever their future holds they do well and are happy. I've also been critical in the past about certain things in Madden BUT the reason I was in the first place (and something that gets missed in the agendas etc... ) is that to be passionate in the first place means they made a game worth being passionate about.
And for the record I'm 0-1 vs Ian...
Freaking INT inside the 5 when I was going in for the go ahead score....