NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

[kevj349]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4solo

Best thing I've heard all thread. I realy think you hit the nail on the head b/c prestige and tradtion or different. To me prestige fluctuates and is more about recent win and losses which will greatly effect recruiting. But Tradition is more static so a school can still lose and still get good ball players b/c of strong tradition.

You can use tradition in a pitch. I am fine with the stars. Teams like ND are still up there because they are still respected and can bring in some serious star power for the field. Michigan can still do the same. They have be dipping just a little but there is no doubt that it will turn around in the very near future.

[4solo]

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You can use tradition in a pitch. I am fine with the stars. Teams like ND are still up there because they are still respected and can bring in some serious star power for the field. Michigan can still do the same. They have be dipping just a little but there is no doubt that it will turn around in the very near future.

But again they respected and get good recruits b/c of strong tradtion even though they have been having sub-par seasons lately. Recruits will say yea i know they have been losing but its still ND or Michigan. And that's b/c of a winning tradtion. I'm just saying tradtion should play a bigger role than just a pitch in the game. B/c IRL it does matter alot.

[kevj349]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4solo

But again they respected and get good recruits b/c of strong tradtion even though they have been having sub-par seasons lately. Recruits will say yea i know they have been losing but its still ND or Michigan. And that's b/c of a winning tradtion. I'm just saying tradtion should play a bigger role than just a pitch in the game. B/c IRL it does matter alot.

Yea I get what you are saying but that is why ND and Michigan are still 5* teams in the game, so they still get the respect and bring in some top notch guys.

[Cane305]

Yeah...so EA just needs to throw another rating system in and have tradition which is long term and prestige which would be current and both affect recruiting in the game...

[jhawk886]

Quote: Originally Posted by jaredlib

As a Penn State fanatic I agree. They should be five stars and probaby a B+ overall at best

They should take away a star from Penn State and give it to KU. We're 3 years removed from a 12-1 season and an Orange Bowl win. One bad season under a new coach with the players learning a new system and the coach bringing in the highest rated recruiting class in school history this year does not deserve a drop to 2*s in my mind.

I love the game and think EA is doing some great things but one area they consistently lack in is properly evaluating the players, programs, and universities. I mean heck, they constantly come on here asking us for info about our favorite schools. I mean don't get me wrong, I love that they're trying to get some community input, but don't you think with the millions they make off of us every year (for generally just buying an "upgrade" rather than a new game) that they could afford to hire some people to do some research and get proper analysis in order to have an accurate representation of the players, schools, and programs?

Just my 2 cents...

[The JareBear]

LOL so true. Sometimes I see things on the game that make me wonder if any actual research was done or did they just watch a highlight vid and read an article on ESPN and go from there.

[He1nousOne1]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4solo

Best thing I've heard all thread. I realy think you hit the nail on the head b/c prestige and tradtion or different. To me prestige fluctuates and is more about recent win and losses which will greatly effect recruiting. But Tradition is more static so a school can still lose and still get good ball players b/c of strong tradition.

They do have both Program Prestige and Program Tradition in the game. You see it when you are recruiting players. What you want is for Program Tradition to have a separate star system from the Prestige Star system? I had figured both "Program Prestige" and "Program Tradition" as seperate variables were what made up the Prestige Star system final tally. Some programs drop faster then others and that is likely due to that program tradition score as it is the one that changes less frequently where as the program prestige score is based more upon the record a team has been having.

[coogrfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by jhawk886

They should take away a star from Penn State and give it to KU. We're 3 years removed from a 12-1 season and an Orange Bowl win. One bad season under a new coach with the players learning a new system and the coach bringing in the highest rated recruiting class in school history this year does not deserve a drop to 2*s in my mind.

Imo 2*'s is a fairly accurate refelection of the state of KU football, in fact one could argue that KU should never have been granted 3* status in the first place (the Jayhawks have been playing fb since 1890; in all that time they have posted back to back bowl seasons just once).

As for your "one bad season" argument, 2010 wasn't just a bad season-it was catastrophic:


3-9 (1-7 in conf)

Lost 3-6 to FBS school North Dakota State at home;

1-7 in conference play last season (all seven losses by double digits, 5 of them by 28+).