Madden NFL 12 Video - E3 Gameplay: Steelers vs. Browns

[The JareBear]

The spin move definitely has been very powerful in all the football games I can remember

[Segagendude]

Right out of the gate:

"Number 23 is back to receive the kick"....

Uhh, that's Cribbs and he wears number 16!

Wait, I know------"This was an early build".

[JohnDoe8865]

Better be a VERY EARLY pre-E3 alpha build with the way that looked and sounded... wow that was bad.

[Dazraz]

Looks good but come on guys isn't about time something was done with the commentary.

[Nab_Impervious_XII]

Quote: Originally Posted by RiderGH

Im sorry, but they didnt do anything to the "presentation". They added fluff around the game. What I mean is, they added these "stats overlays" when the qb is running on field prior to a drive, and another "stat overlay" after you score a TD. They added awesome camera stuff before the game starts, between quarters,etc. but we are still watching random dudes run around randomly at the end of the play. From the time a drive starts until it ends, we get no TV style presentation or camera work from what I have seen. Its all smoke and mirrors. The overlays pop up and disappear before you can read them which has been a historical problem, I mean to have TV style presentation, you need constant overlays, proper post play/pre play camera cuts, and commentary that is proactive instead of reactive. I was all pumped for some presentation, but its still not up to par, its not good enough.

Great points. I'm glad I'm not alone in this. The cameras and presentation cohesion still feels so dead.

And this is exactly what I feared would happen unfortunately. They spent so much time programming the 700 cameras, they didn't have enough time to actually integrate them into an engaging heart-thumping presentation package. In other words, EA did a great job at the academic front (they replicated every dang camera), but spent relatively little time in the emotional front which is equally as important - if not more so (the "other company" had 30 cameras at best but was still hailed as revolutionary in presentation).

In the end, you have a game that looks authentic in sporadic bursts (they show technically correct camera angles), but you still have a game that doesn't capture the essence of an interactive TV broadcast (due to the improper use of stat overlays, non-effective camera transitions, and too much looking at static guys doing nothing in between plays).

Everything is just so dang "skippable" because of this. I'm going to say this though. Madden 12 is definitely in an improvement in presentation, but I was really rooting for EA to make bigger strides - especially since they removed the extra point.

[DGuinta1]

I had to pause right off the bat, where is the proper tackling? Geez! Bowling pin tackling! Looks pretty but cmon!

[DGuinta1]

Gus says, "Power running" then Mendenhall does that ridiculous spin..lol

[bhurst99]

Quote: Originally Posted by RiderGH

Im sorry, but they didnt do anything to the "presentation". They added fluff around the game. What I mean is, they added these "stats overlays" when the qb is running on field prior to a drive, and another "stat overlay" after you score a TD. They added awesome camera stuff before the game starts, between quarters,etc. but we are still watching random dudes run around randomly at the end of the play. From the time a drive starts until it ends, we get no TV style presentation or camera work from what I have seen. Its all smoke and mirrors. The overlays pop up and disappear before you can read them which has been a historical problem, I mean to have TV style presentation, you need constant overlays, proper post play/pre play camera cuts, and commentary that is proactive instead of reactive. I was all pumped for some presentation, but its still not up to par, its not good enough.

What you wrote is exactly what I was thinking. So much talk about TV presentation but it doesn't look like a televised game at all. Instead of showing some dude running back to the huddle, it should immediately go to a replay. Imagine if you watched a game on TV and they didn't show one replay during a drive. You'd be furious.

I feared the only TV elements would be before the game with the new openings but then nothing after that. That seems to be case.

Edit: Okay, in some of the other videos I see they do cut to replays after the plays which is much better.