New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by It Must Be The Shoes

So I am going to be banned for using the term: licensed football gaming products What is this, a Nazi concentration camp?

Yes comparing rules on a forum to a regime that literally killed tens of millions of people is quite appropriate. Good analogy..

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by Apostle

This doesn't bother me in the least. DLC is here to stay. If it's worth buying, I'll buy it. If it's not, I won't.

Best post of the thread.

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

I honestly don't understand the need to defend it. Don't know if it's people just justifying/rationalizing their eventual purchase. Some sort of loyalty to EA. Or something else. Should be demanding more for your money. No not for nothing. For the amount we pay when we buy the game.

I would rather have microtransactions which are completely optional depending on what you want from the game, than to have the company keep up with inflation and adjust their yearly price of the game based on that?

Game prices haven't changed in what 6 or 7 years? If they were like most products out there we'd be paying $75 per game.

I don't see how this is unlike any other product where you have to pay for extra options or a higher level of service.

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

To be fair you don't even know what the cause is. None of us have access to EA's budget details. We don't know how much these features cost to implement/maintain and how they change EA's ability to make a profit on this game. You can't say with any certainty that this DLC is necessary to offset the costs. You can assume that the costs of implementing these are so great that EA "had" to charge for it, but you don't know. All I know for certain is EA has no direct competition, largely because of actions they took to make it that way. That leads me to believe they're less inclined to give us the most for our money, or at least they no longer have comp there to force them to. That belief is only strengthened when I see them start offering game features as DLC. And I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt based on their past history with microtransactions. We know what happened years ago when another company forced them to lower prices while still giving us the same amount of content.

First EA has NEVER had competition when it comes to NCAA football. Microtransactions would be here whether EA has competition or not.

And really EA was to blame for 2k's demise?

You make it sound like EA was practicing some shady business practice and taking 2k out ilegally. Talk to the NFL and the NCAA Licensing Group.

Are microtransactions a good thing? Not imo. Is something like this where there are add on features for $3 available a big deal? Absolutely not, unless you are one of the chicken littles who cry the sky is falling at every turn because they have an obvious axe to grind with EA.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by It Must Be The Shoes

The fact that there's a monopoly is pertinent, and very directly related to the subject of the thread: "new features aren't all free in ncaa football 12". When there was no monopoly, similar features were all-inclusive. Now that there is a monopoly, we're forced to pay extra for them.

First it's not a monopoly. Second when NFL2k5 was out the microtransactions movement had not hit yet. You are acting like something like this is something only EA does and they waited till NFL2k was gone to do it.

revisionist history is awesome.

[JaySmooov]

If people don't like the fact that EA is charging to "advance a week" online, then stop complaining and don't buy it. Simple as that. No one is FORCING us to pay for it.

Also consider that when we buy DLC, it's stored on our HARD DRIVES/MEMORY UNITS, so there's no telling how it would affect the game if it was added to a disc.

Seriously, though, E3 can't come fast enough. We need to see some gameplay ASAP, because people are getting uptight over a optional feature.

[poopoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

I would rather have microtransactions which are completely optional depending on what you want from the game, than to have the company keep up with inflation and adjust their yearly price of the game based on that? Game prices haven't changed in what 6 or 7 years? If they were like most products out there we'd be paying $75 per game. I don't see how this is unlike any other product where you have to pay for extra options or a higher level of service.

Honestly, I'd rather have them just sell the basic game (just the basic play now mode at a price lower than the $60 mark) then have all the other features modes optional. You want RTG you pay X, you want OD you pay Y, you want offline dynasty you pay Z. That'd save most people money and only let people get exactly what they want from the game.

If they're going to charge $60 then decide some features are bonus, I'd rather them just up the price or include the full list of features.

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

First EA has NEVER had competition when it comes to NCAA football. Microtransactions would be here whether EA has competition or not. And really EA was to blame for 2k's demise? You make it sound like EA was practicing some shady business practice and taking 2k out ilegally. Talk to the NFL and the NCAA Licensing Group. Are microtransactions a good thing? Not imo. Is something like this where there are add on features for $3 available a big deal? Absolutely not, unless you are one of the chicken littles who cry the sky is falling at every turn because they have an obvious axe to grind with EA.

Yes they have. And like I've stated previously, Madden having competition was beneficial to NCAA since the games share a lot of things. It also ignores that they bought an exclusive contract which made it impossible for any competition to pop up. And no I don't have an obvious axe to grind with EA. I have a problem with microtransactions.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

Honestly, I'd rather have them just sell the basic game (just the basic play now mode at a price lower than the $60 mark) then have all the other features modes optional. You want RTG you pay X, you want OD you pay Y, you want offline dynasty you pay Z. That'd save most people money and only let people get exactly what they want from the game. If they're going to charge $60 then decide some features are bonus, I'd rather them just up the price or include the full list of features.

Again the price of the game hasn't changed in like 7 years. That's not common in the consumer market place. Not sure what your complaint is on the pricing.

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

Yes they have. And like I've stated previously, Madden having competition was beneficial to NCAA since the games share a lot of things. And no I don't have an obvious axe to grind with EA. I have a problem with microtransactions.

That's not even close to accurate. As far as not having an axe to grind with EA that's also quite obviously false. If you don't like Microtransactions then I hope you complain about every game that is released.

[It Must Be The Shoes]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

First EA has NEVER had competition when it comes to NCAA football. Microtransactions would be here whether EA has competition or not. And really EA was to blame for 2k's demise? You make it sound like EA was practicing some shady business practice and taking 2k out ilegally. Talk to the NFL and the NCAA Licensing Group. Are microtransactions a good thing? Not imo. Is something like this where there are add on features for $3 available a big deal? Absolutely not, unless you are one of the chicken littles who cry the sky is falling at every turn because they have an obvious axe to grind with EA.

EA lobbied for exclusivity (NCAAF & NFL). Then went out and paid a fortune to gobble up exclusive rights to every other branded football league domestic and abroad (including the exclusive rights to ESPN) to stifle competition and gain control over the market. Moreover, they are now charging for features that would have otherwise been all-inclusive in an environment with competing licensed products. This is an anti consumer business strategy. If anybody has an axe to grind with EA, they certainly are justified.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

Honestly, I'd rather have them just sell the basic game (just the basic play now mode at a price lower than the $60 mark) then have all the other features modes optional. You want RTG you pay X, you want OD you pay Y, you want offline dynasty you pay Z. That'd save most people money and only let people get exactly what they want from the game. If they're going to charge $60 then decide some features are bonus, I'd rather them just up the price or include the full list of features.

You are then living in an Utopian world.

Do you know how much of an headache that would be for marketing and developing the game and the retail stores setting up that kind of a practice.

You'd probably be paying more for one feature and or all the features because of all the extra cost involved in setting up something like that.

Geez, I'd like my text messages to be free to and get rid of the camera options that I don't use, but guess what, that's here to stay.