New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

[poopoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by mattbooty

But the cell companies and cable providers already "pull this". In the examples I gave. They have a base product and then add-on services on top of that. These web features are NEW features.... they were never part of the base product. If last year you could sim and advance from the web for free and then THIS year they started charging for it, then I would agree with you 100%. If it is a new feature that has never been part of the base product before then it hasn't been established yet. Verizon just came out with 4G. If you want it, you pay more than you did for 3G. At one time text messaging was a new feature. When it came out it was decided it would be an add-on (or part of a more expensive package). Same here. This is a new feature. you say you aren't getting a "fully featured" product... if you buy a verizon phone and don't pay for every single add-on they sell then by your definition you are not getting a "fully featured" product there either, or directv, or whatever. So you say you would be against them if they started doing it, but I have news for you, they already are. This is no different. If you buy an new handset at verizon and have the cheapest plan they offer do you feel they are obligated to provide you with every new service that gets released (4g, visual voicemail, texting when it was new, etc) at no charge? Again, I stress, this is a NEW feature. If, as you are insinuating, they took an EXISTING feature and yanked it out and started charging for it, I would be right there with you. And on top of that this is a new feature that will add ongoing costs to EA, not like any built-in HDR, road to glory, etc feature that only costs development time. You mention features that you only get if you pre-order from a certain store. I'm not talking about those. I'm specifically talking about these web-enabled features.

I'm not insinuating anything. The base product used to include the new features they added yearly. Now it no longer does. That's the issue. It'd be one thing if their model was to always charge extra for new features that hadn't been in the game before.

Quote: Originally Posted by ms24forever

Just face the fact that this is the direction that video game publishers are going. It's not just EA that does this. It blows my mind how much people cry over all of this. They take it SO personally. I am not defending EA or saying that I am going to buy their DLC, however stop acting like EA is the only company that does this.

Partially because people are willing to deal with it. Of course companies are gonna charge for DLC when people just shrug their shoulders, say "hey it's like a cellphone!" and buy it.

[It Must Be The Shoes]

Quote: Originally Posted by mattbooty

But the cell companies and cable providers already "pull this". In the examples I gave. They have a base product and then add-on services on top of that. These web features are NEW features.... they were never part of the base product. If last year you could sim and advance from the web for free and then THIS year they started charging for it, then I would agree with you 100%. If it is a new feature that has never been part of the base product before then it hasn't been established yet. Verizon just came out with 4G. If you want it, you pay more than you did for 3G. At one time text messaging was a new feature. When it came out it was decided it would be an add-on (or part of a more expensive package). Same here. This is a new feature. you say you aren't getting a "fully featured" product... if you buy a verizon phone and don't pay for every single add-on they sell then by your definition you are not getting a "fully featured" product there either, or directv, or whatever. So you say you would be against them if they started doing it, but I have news for you, they already are. This is no different. If you buy an new handset at verizon and have the cheapest plan they offer do you feel they are obligated to provide you with every new service that gets released (4g, visual voicemail, texting when it was new, etc) at no charge?

Unless, of course, you do business with one of a dozen other cell phone providers. Like MetroPCS, that provides all of those features for $40 (no tax).

Regardless, different products have different business models with different precedents set. We're specifically speaking about licensed football gaming products in this thread (this is a football gaming forum).

Prior to EAs monopoly, there were competing products providing web integration in licensed football gaming products. Not only was this extra server-based feature included in the cost of the purchase of the game, but the game in mention was only $20.00.

[roadman]

[quote=It Must Be The Shoes;2042439291

We're specifically speaking about licensed football gaming products in this thread (this is a football gaming forum).

Prior to EAs monopoly, there were competing products providing web integration in licensed football gaming products. Not only was this extra server-based feature included in the cost of the purchase of the game, but the game in mention was only $20.00.[/QUOTE]

Please show me where in the thread topic we are discussing about licensed football gaming products.

I only see a few people toss that word around.

[It Must Be The Shoes]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

A. Monopoly was never the subject of the thread, therefore it's taking it off topic, and it usually goes down a slippery slope once it does.(I'm sure you are aware of that with your previous lurking experience and known banning s, which is also off topic.) B. Other games in this genre don't have a monopoly and they are charging for extra features that are not in the full game.

The fact that there's a monopoly is pertinent, and very directly related to the subject of the thread: "new features aren't all free in ncaa football 12".

When there was no monopoly, similar features were all-inclusive. Now that there is a monopoly, we're forced to pay extra for them.

[It Must Be The Shoes]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Please show me where in the thread topic we are discussing about licensed football gaming products. I only see a few people toss that word around.

It's a term I am using *personally* to provide context and clarity regarding the subject which is being discussed here: "New features aren't all free in ncaa football 12".

I don't entirely see the point of you making special mention of it, though.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by It Must Be The Shoes

The fact that there's a monopoly is pertinent, and very directly related to the subject of the thread: "new features aren't all free in ncaa football 12". When there was no monopoly, similar features were all-inclusive. Now that there is a monopoly, we're forced to pay extra for them.

If you say so, go for it.

You evaded point B.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by It Must Be The Shoes

It's a term I am using *personally* to provide context and clarity regarding the subject which is being discussed here: "New features aren't all free in ncaa football 12". I don't entirely see the point of you making special mention of it, though.

I'm just saying when the word is used around here, closings of thread usually happen and banning's begin.

Enter at your own risk.

[It Must Be The Shoes]

Quote:

I'm just saying when the word is used around here, closings of thread usually happen and banning's begin. Enter at your own risk.

So I am going to be banned for using the term: licensed football gaming products

What is this, a Nazi concentration camp?