NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

[poopoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrRudy

I don't think it's that people will never be satisfied in this case, I think it's that people have seen this feature already implemented in a prior game (granted from a different company) and apparently it's flat out amazing. So when it's announced that it's coming to a game as immense as NCAA12... it's natural to get really hyped up. It doesn't mean people won't buy or give the game the praise it deserves... it's more that they didn't meet the expectations for a new feature that has existed before (in a different game) and people have a right to be annoyed.

Basically.

You put a coaching carousel in a college video game, it's going to get compared to the only other CC we know. When it passes Choops 2k8's version of it there won't be as much complaining. Maybe it'll happen this year (by what I've seen so far I doubt it) maybe it'll be next year or the year after. We'll see.

[cts]

All I'm starting to hear when I read this thread is Charlie Brown's mom.

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[PVarck31]

Drop the 2k8 talk. This isn't the forum for it. If you want to compare the two then make a thread in the "other football games" or "other basketball games" forums. Even then, its still somewhat comparing apples to oranges since its two different sports.

[poopoop]

In that case let's compare to real life.

Look at NCAA 11.

Compare EMU's coach to Bama's. They have offensive playbooks that are very similar, both use one back schemes that contain a lot of the same formations. They have very nearly the exact same offensive philosophies (run/pass ratio, aggressiveness, etc.)

Applying NCAA 12's CC to these coaches, the only difference between the two would be presitge. So, the only difference would be recruiting pitches, and how much the players advance. On the field, in-game they are nearly exactly the same.

That's a problem. There needs to be ratings to further differentiate these two coaches. And if not ratings, the playbooks should be more unique and/or they need more in depth philosophy sliders.

[tyler289]

Very excited about this.

[RM938]

I'm not sure why there is so much bashing about the Coaching Carousel. It is the first time they are implementing it. No feature is ever perfected the first time. Look at RTG for example. They used to not have H.S playoffs....Hard to imagine I know. Now about 3-4 years after they added H.S to the game they are adding full length season and allowing us to import teambuilder teams.

With that being said, give Coaching Carousel a chance before you start bashing it, a perfected Coaching Carousel won't be out until NCAA 13 or 14 so relax and enjoy what we have. We are all very fortunate to be able to afford video games and consoles, so relax and enjoy the game.

[Bullet Sponge]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

In that case let's compare to real life. Look at NCAA 11. Compare EMU's coach to Bama's. They have offensive playbooks that are very similar, both use one back schemes that contain a lot of the same formations. They have very nearly the exact same offensive philosophies (run/pass ratio, aggressiveness, etc.) Applying NCAA 12's CC to these coaches, the only difference between the two would be presitge. So, the only difference would be recruiting pitches, and how much the players advance. On the field, in-game they are nearly exactly the same. That's a problem. There needs to be ratings to further differentiate these two coaches. And if not ratings, the playbooks should be more unique and/or they need more in depth philosophy sliders.

The difference between Alabama and EMU is mostly the quality of players. Stick Nick Saban at EMU this year and Ron English at Bama and see how they do. The main influence of the coaches is in recruiting and playcalling, and those are both covered in the game. I could see perhaps some awareness bump based on OC, DC, and HC stats, but it's hardly a game breaker IMO.

[poopoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bullet Sponge

The difference between Alabama and EMU is mostly the quality of players. Stick Nick Saban at EMU this year and Ron English at Bama and see how they do. The main influence of the coaches is in recruiting and playcalling, and those are both covered in the game. I could see perhaps some awareness bump based on OC, DC, and HC stats, but it's hardly a game breaker IMO.

I disagree that playcalling is covered. Like I pointed out, they basically have the same playbooks and have the same offensive philosophies in NCAA 11 so they essentially had the same playcalling. It's even more apparent if you look at defenses where there's only 3-4 playbooks. Maybe something has changed this year, point it out if so because I'd be happy if that were the case. If there's a substantial in game difference between playing against a poor coach and a good one then I have no issues with this.

It's not a gamebreaker you're right. Anyone who says it is is wrong. Just disappointed that EA seems to have made a coaching carousel first, then will establish why coaches matter second. To me it should be the other way around.