NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by DR_Drake_Ramore

OK. I get your point, it's just your opinion. Newsflash, your opinion is wrong, which is a fact backed up by the Blog updates which detail all the various ways that the CC is implemented. Take off your 'Coach rating' blinders and you'll be much happier with this NCAA 12 CC feature.

I am happy we finally have a foundation for a CC don't get me wrong. But I am disappointed in what we have this year. This may be very well because my expectations were to high, but I have the right to be upset about the feature I find most important in Dynasty mode.

And what "facts" am I wronf about? Right now we know the Coach Prestige affects the progression of players and the one pitch in recruiting. How much exactly? We don't know. It is pure speculation right now. In my opinion ,though, I feel with what we have now that the only major difference we will notice in Dynasty is the changing of playbooks over time. I don't think much else will change with the CC we have now.

[goalieump413]

Quote: Originally Posted by DorianDonP

I'm very interested in seeing how the CPU controlled CC will play out over the course of multiple years in Dynasty. I'm concerned that the good teams in 2011 will be the same good teams in 2021. I'm hoping for bad coaching hires so that the landscape of the super powers will change every so often. Texas doesn't stay on top forever. Bama doesn't. Florida doesn't, etc, and Oregon will rise, Boise will rise, and West Virginia will rise, etc. I'm also hoping that in 2020, there won't by 70 teams running the triple option or something like that. Hopefully the the generated coaches in the game don't get random coaching styles, but they stay in proportion to the coaching styles of the coaches in real life. The majority of the teams should have pro-style/spread offenses.

Let's hope this was fully tested. There's an upward spiral effect present when top programs ALWAYS get the best recruits, and this year, coaches.

If I were building this game, I'd make sure to include some sort of random event generator (Ohio State/Jim Tressel) that knocks down top programs for violations and random coaching departures. If not, coaching philosophy pyramid structures develop that, as you mention, install clone offenses throughout large blocks of schools.

On the other hand, it IS realistic in the sense that Bill Walsh created this effect with his West Coast Offense. Look how many NFL teams now run it.

[DorianDonP]

Quote: Originally Posted by sniperhare

So if you're playing as an OC you don't control your players? All you do is call plays?

No. You will have total control of the offense (calling the plays and running the plays).

[volstopfan14]

Quote: Originally Posted by sniperhare

So if you're playing as an OC you don't control your players? All you do is call plays?

If you are a coordinator you only control and call plays for your side of the ball. So an OC would controll the offense but not the defense.

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

Even so, the comparisons are getting a bit ridiculous. 2K sports made CH2K8, not EA Sports. EA Sports obviously didn't copy exactly how 2K did it and why should they? It's their first year putting this feature in and they want to do it their way. So the comparisons to a game that was put out in 2007, by a different company, who obviously had a different vision just need to stop and stop now.

The reason I compare it to 2k8 is the same reason people compare Madden with 2k5. They are both prime examples in what people are asking for. 2k8 has the best Coach Carousel out there, so I am obviously going to compare EA's to the best because I want EA's to become the best.

You can say they're two different companies with two different visions, but they're both trying to replicate something that happens in real life. In real life coaches have areas(ratings) they are good, bad, or average in. HC's also don't personally hire their coordinators or assistants, but they pretty much make the decision.

So, though they are from two different dev teams, they're both trying to replicate the same thing.

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

The reason I compare it to 2k8 is the same reason people compare Madden with 2k5. They are both prime examples in what people are asking for. 2k8 has the best Coach Carousel out there, so I am obviously going to compare EA's to the best because I want EA's to become the best. You can say they're two different companies with two different visions, but they're both trying to replicate something that happens in real life. In real life coaches have areas(ratings) they are good, bad, or average in. HC's also don't personally hire their coordinators or assistants, but they pretty much make the decision. So, though they are from two different dev teams, they're both trying to replicate the same thing.

Well like I said, each team had a different vision on how to replicate real life; And just because the EA Sports team isn't doing it exactly how CH2K8 did it, doesn't mean it's wrong or any worse.

Once you stop the comparisons, then maybe you'll see all the work that went into this feature. It's great that you enjoyed CH2K8, i'm sure all of us did, but we're also going to enjoy NCAA12 knowing that the C.C. isn't a completely useless feature like you're trying to tell us it is

[HoundsOfHowl]

I am almost 100% positive that I'm not the only one that feels this way :

NCAA 12's CC is actually great! You can't just come out and put in a new feature the way that everyone is expecting. Did 2k come out of the gate with the greatest CC ever? No. Sure you could fire and hire assitants, but ok you couldn't start out as an assistant. This is probably the beginning of what will be an awesome CC in the next 2 years. The only way to go now is up for EA. They will take all of our advice and add it in as they have done the past few years, it may be slowly but surely it will get in. I can see that in 2013 being able to hire and fire and coach ratings (besides prestige), and by 2014 possibly getting in position coaches.

Alot of the haters are not happy and will never be happy no matter what they get, there will always be someone who says "This game sucks" well ya know what? You suck! I am not saying I don't have complaints, but I overlook them and look at the big difference in gameplay and added features. Just like the whole thing of people complaining about paying 7 bucks for being able to do OD from the PC. Big deal, pay for it or not, whats 7 bucks if you can go out and drop 65 dollars on a game? If you don't like that they make you pay, play OD just like last year. Anything else I am missing?

[hurricanefootball4]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

i'm sure all of us did, but we're also going to enjoy NCAA12

I def. agree on this one, I think CC in NCAA Football 12 will definitely add length to the amount of time that we'll all be playing it. Personally, I can't wait