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Old 05-24-2011, 03:49 PM   #49
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The prestige affects recruiting because it is one pitch. That one pitch can be avoided and most recruits in 11 had Very Low interest in it. And then it affects progression. I doubt its anything major. We'll probably see A prestige coaches constantly having player progress at least 4 points a season while lower prestige coaches have players progress more inconsistently. And all that will do is keep the top programs on top while the bottom ones stay there.
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As the Head Coach, the impact you have on your team’s recruiting is evident through the dynamic Coach Loyalty and Coach Prestige ratings. Now, Coach Loyalty will be impacted by how long a Coach is at a particular school, if they have met their goals and if they have signed any contract extensions. During a phone call with a recruit, you can now expect to see the Coach’s ratings dynamically update, potentially helping (or hindering) your weekly phone calls.
Theres more than just the coach prestige pitch that effects recruiting. Ratings (pitch strengths change weekly)
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Old 05-24-2011, 03:54 PM   #50
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Will the coaching goals in the contracts make sense in that how they match up with your playbook, meaning that if I'm running a wishbone option or a run heavy team I hope I don't have to meet unobtainable goals which I have seen on screen shots like , 4000 yds passing and 40+ TD passing.

Also does it take into account the length of quarters your playing as it would be very hard to rush for 2200 yds playing only 5 minute quarters.

Not that the length of quarter bothers me . But I don't want to have to change my playbook style just to meet a contract goal.
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College Hoops 2k8, not NBA 2k8. And if you have played 2k8, then you know the lack of ratings almost makes the addition pointless. The most important parts of a CC are ratings, then having styles and everything else included. If you don't include ratings, then coaches are almost pointless and it defeats the whole purpose of the feature.
The whole point of this NCAA 12's carousel is different than 2k8. In 2k8 you never started out as an assistant coach, and in 12 once you become head coach you have no say in your assistants and the assistants you're given have no influence in terms of progression. Thus, ratings in 2k8 were mandatory if the legacy mode was going to work because your assistant and their success were crucial in determining your success as a head coach.

In NCAA 12 it's more about goals and it's more objective driven. In 2k8 you were forced to either start out as either Coach K in terms of skill and ratings and have your pick of either team or you could choose from a select number of 1 star teams in the closed option. In NCAA 12, you're given the choice of any team, any position, but pick Alabama with caution because you're a 1 star prestige coach with a very short leash. You didn't get that aspect in 2k8. Back to 12 being more goal driven, it seems as though you giving more than ten goals a season, ranging from goals concerning recruiting to team stat goals, this is something which 2k8 did not have.

So in my mind, NCAA 12 cares more about prestige than ratings and it has a good carousel setup in terms of having a dynamic environment where coaches' prestige and ultimate longevity is determined by their ability to meet goals. Also in 2k8, playstyle was not a determining factor in whether or not you got a gig. However, in 12 it seems as though schools might look for coaches who run the latest and most modern offense or might choose the coach who likes to run the ball fifty times a game.

Both CC's of 2k8 and NCAA 12 share some similarities and are different in their own unique ways, so comparing the two constantly IMO isn't fair to either game.

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I think it was stated somewhere that if you play as a coordinator, you are also designated(in game terms) the recruiting coordinator and are responsible for the teams' recruiting.
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so will schools like army, navy and airforce only sign coaches who run the triple option? i think itd really ruin the game if 6 years down the road in a dynasty you play navy and they are running a spread offence, just not realistic
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so will schools like army, navy and airforce only sign coaches who run the triple option? i think itd really ruin the game if 6 years down the road in a dynasty you play navy and they are running a spread offence, just not realistic
It can change at any moment. The coach can get fired someone else takes his place, depending on prestige, who their alma mater was, record, bowl appearances n etc so they can go from triple opt to pass heavy just depends on who is availible and what their resume looks like.
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I actually like the random pitches(at least more than how it was in NCAA 10 and before). It prevents users from spamming only the "most" pitches for 2-3 hours like they used to. It may not be realistic, but in video game terms, a good thing.

I assume, it is also another way to separate the good teams from the bad teams. obviously the better teams will have better rounded pitches than the lower rated teams.
NCAA 10 had a fix already in place to prevent spamming; the recruit hangs up. It makes zero sense that the worst team in the country can call the top recruit in the country and keep him on the phone for an hour despite him having zero interest in the school.
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It can change at any moment. The coach can get fired someone else takes his place, depending on prestige, who their alma mater was, record, bowl appearances n etc so they can go from triple opt to pass heavy just depends on who is availible and what their resume looks like.
This is what could make CC so interesting to me is the fact Navy might have a job opening and none of the available candidates are option oriented or maybe the one who is doesn't have enough of a resume or has a losing history, or maybe the most attractive is an alumnus who's got an air raid offensive style and has won everywhere he has gone, so they decide to roll the dice and change the identity of their program and go with the Mike Leach type of coach. So then the question becomes can the new coach bring in players to fit his offensive style, like quick receivers, accurate qbs, if he can't he won't last long at Navy, and Navy might never think again of hiring a coach who doesn't have an option style.
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